Dear Robert and all,
I have been absent from CT for some time and I don't remember if I ever
responded to your mail. I do so now.
I agree completely with what you have written. The perceiver and the perceived
seem to be interdependent and interpenetrating.
Taking quantum physics and relativity together begs the question, what is the
nature of the whole which contains them both?
The bigger realm seems to be a holographic universe where space, light, energy,
matter, movement, spirit and
consciousness are all present and interwoven everywhere.
As for the question, what is primary? A perfect question for opening up a space
of inquiry! Sometimes it feels right to narrow the
space and focus on a smaller context and at the same time it appeals to simply
open the space through inquiry and then to occupy
that openness and see what unfolds.
It seems to me that intentions are often not primary. Now it feels better to me
to think of movements, emotions and
intentions all as different facets of the same greater holographic context. For
a coherent conceptual framework for systemic constellation,
it seems helpfulto point to the greater context all the while knowing that it
is essentially beyond our grasp.
Enjoy,
Thomas
From: Robert Grant <erebees@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Woody Allen/judgement
Hello Thomas and All,
It is refreshing to read you lines.
"One implication of relativity and quantum physics taken together is
that the perceiver changes what is perceived."
There may well be a further layer of subtlety here that I find
tempting to miss and may mask a deeper freedom. The other implication
of relativity and quantum physics taken together is that the perceived
changes the perceiver.
It is not that our intentions are powerless; it is that our intentions
may not be primary. This leads us to the question - what is primary?
My predilection and resonance is with the Zen point of view - this is,
this is it (the truth of what I feel and experience now).
Kind regards,
Robert
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Thomas Bryson <mailto:tb%40thomas-bryson.de>
wrote:
Dear Sadhana and all,
Thank you Sadhana for your interwoven questions. A good question opens up
possibilities through inquiry and dialogue. I will try to keep it open with
my response, which is only an hypothesis.
In my opinion, transformation at the roots is a change of meaning on the
physical, mental and subtle levels. It is informed by the perception that
everything is an unbroken, moving, interdependent whole.
The assumption that an individual is limited to an independent, inherent
existence is part of a mechanistic worldview, which is true within a limited
frame of reference. Judgement is a protective mechanism arising from that
embodied perspective.
in systemic constellation, the expansion of the concept of individual
identity to recognize the aspect that each is also the essence of their
family system, goes against the commonly held belief in the self-concept. The
family, group or cultural identities merely expand the role of judgement to
defending 'us' instead of 'me.'
The natural movement in systemic thinking is to extend the context further to
include the implications of the theories of relativity and quantum physics
and other subtler dimensions which defy our ability to fully grasp. In those
larger contexts, the self-concept as it has been generally known throughout
human history is an inadequate model and has been implicated as the essential
cause of suffering.
How are we able to transform at the roots? Look to the roots of one's
identity.
How do we go beyond? Leave the identity at the door. In the larger context
which arises in logical systemic thinking, one's personal, family, tribal and
cultural identity is simply one point of reference among many. When one
embodies the perspective that one is the essence of the unbroken whole, then
judgement is seen to be irrelevant.
What we can do, or not do to make transformation happen? One can become open
to transformation through the phenomenological approach, the classic
scientific method, Zen meditation (among many other valid practices) or
simply through being engaged with one's own actual direct experience as a
human and practitioner.
The perception or intuition of the unbroken whole is an intention, an
openness to the implicit hidden behind the explicit. One implication of
relativity and quantum physics taken together, is that the perceiver changes
what is perceived. That means that our intention to be open to the unbroken
wholeness, itself changes the whole, through interpenetration between time,
space, movement, matter, consciousness, light and subtler dimensions.
Thank you,
Thomas Bryson
Munich
