This is a very important thread.
As a number of people have hinted it is about a maturation in the
constellation field. There is always a regret and a fear of arrogance when
the student sees past the teacher to greater truths, but it ultimately a
necessary step if growth is to continue. The fear of arrogance just serves
to keep us honest - not a bad thing.
One sign of maturation is the integration of other schools of thought and
understanding. Another is the development of a humility that sees
constellations as one of many possible interventions and ways of
understanding the world. It is no longer seen as the unique solution for
all humanity's problems, that stands above everything else, but rather it
is finding the right place for itself in the constellation of therapies,
philosophies, sciences and arts. How wonderful!
Elmar made a point about Alice Millar's work saying she
"challenges any fundamentalist belief in the Orders of Love while
respecting history, the embodied unconscious, and the damage wrought by
parents and those in authority over others. She uncovers the roots of
fascism in childhood traumas re-enacted at collective levels. It is at the
place where there is power difference in relationship that most care needs
to be taken and where most traumatic damage is caused and most re-wounding
happens."
While I am familiar with her work I, have not actually read much of it and
I was wondering if Elmar or anyone else has a reference for the point that
the roots of fascism are in childhood traumas and are re-enacted at
collective levels.
Any assistance would be much appreciated
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.cwalsh.com.au
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:36 PM, 'Eimear O'Neill' eimear@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Alice Miller, Polish-Jewish therapist, researcher and artist should be
suggested reading for working in family and systemic constellations. Her
work challenges any fundamentalist belief in the Orders of Love while
respecting history, the embodied unconscious, and the damage wrought by
parents and those in authority over others. She uncovers the roots of
fascism in childhood traumas re-enacted at collective levels. It is at the
place where there is power difference in relationship that most care needs
to be taken and where most traumatic damage is caused and most re-wounding
happens. For me as a trauma therapist, constellations training with someone
working from an indigenous perspective, supported power literacy, humility
in the face of mystery, respect for ‘resistance’ and trust in the Field.
Resistance reveals the other does not feel safe. Park your ego outside.
With trust in the Field, you don’t need to push, interpret from your
perspective and certainly not apply physical, emotional or epistemological
violence to get what you believe is a “good outcome”. We each bring our own
wounds when we step into this work. As Rumi reminds us, we each, however
lauded by others, need to “Keep an eye on the bandaged place.”
Constellations work is moving into a more self-reflective phase. I agree
with Anngywn and Deborah… in terms of publicly naming imperious
arrogance…and of honouring Hellingers’ contributions while developing our
collective capacity for understanding the historic and familial/familiar
patterns of dominance and abuse. I’d add that speaking truth to power is
important at multiple levels, to maintain our humanity in the face of the
normalized abuses of power by governments, corporations and institutions so
rampant right now. Systemic constellations helps us see those patterns. We
need to support each other in refusing to stay quiet or normalise them. Our
ancestors, past and future, are with us on this one.
Warmly
Eimear
Eimear O'Neill PhD
www.eimearoneill.com
‘If we surrendered/ to earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted,
like trees."Rainer Maria Rilke:
On 19 April 2017 at 06:19, Deborah Crowe deborahcrowe@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Anngwyn.
It seems a combination of the "Emperor's new clothes" and 'Don't throw
the baby out with the bathwater" are appropriate here.
Warm regards
Deborah
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Linda Conyard linda.conyard@xxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Beautiful Anngwyn xxxx
On 19 Apr 2017, at 4:12 pm, anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Springtime Greetings from Arizona !
In response to Giselle's understandable discomfort, I am reminded of
Bert's early teachings which still resonate for me, which involves, simply
" *Acknowledging What Is* " and he wrote a book with that title. And so
for me, what is that Bert and Sophie have often physically,
emotionally,and spiritually abused, re-traumatized and publicly
humiliated more than a few trusting people in pain, who have appealed to
them for help. For me, as a trauma specialist, this has everything to do
with power over and not much to offer in the genuine interest of healing.
As a result I have taken some distance for many years now, and Bert's
early teachings remain a profound source of inspiration for me, still.
Watching this video, my heart hurt for many reasons. I find it quite
remarkable that thousands will travel far and pay good money to subject
themselves to such abuse and then passively sit, in unexamined,complicit,
silence,for years of top down arrogance and exploitation. In this case, the
one brave voice of protest was excluded. Is this not fascism? Human
nature, I sadly suppose...along with a persistent belief is that there
has to be some bon-bon somewhere deep within such blatant ca-.ca.
Individual discernment is so desperately needed...within what has
become a cult of iconic personalities, and it is also important to not give
up on the wealth of teachings that Bert's philosophical perspective has
offered for so many of us in profound, and for me, life changing ways. I so
hope that no one will ever take any licence to physically, emotionally or
spiritually abuse anyone ever, in blind loyal imitation of such clueless
behavior as we see on this video and many other instances, as well. Please
bear in mind that one of the most important tenets of trauma work is to
never overwhelm an already overwhelmed client and many, if not most, who
come to SCW have some history of trauma. And for me, after working for
many decades, with traumatized people in pain,my heart has come
to understand that it is often more important to be kind, than to be right.
All for now,
Anngwyn St.just Ph.D
www.acst-international.com
http://anngwyn.wisrville.org
--
Deborah Crowe
www.deborahcrowe.info
*+64 (0) 21 776769 <+64%2021%20776%20769>*
