Well said!
Enviado desde el Ecuador
Rosabelle White Aguirre de Rice
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On Aug 5, 2012, at 7:56 AM, kenn day <enki@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear All,
If you are happy, what else matters?
If you are not happy, what else matters?
namaste,
Kenn
P.S. Best wishes for the conference. I wish we could be there, but family
comes first.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:24 AM, "Carolyn Zahner" <cpzahner@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear All,
Thank you all for this important thread. I am grateful to all of the
teachers on this forum. Dearest Anutosh, special thanks for your courage in
sharing your personal story!
My comments below are not directed at Woody Allen; nor are they directed at
the beautiful sharing that Anutosh offered. Rather, my comments are a
reflection and questions regarding the larger field that Eimear mentions
below.
As this thread was opening and being explored, I was very intrigued.
Preparing to leave for the North American Systemic Constellations
Intensive, as a faculty member, I was aware of how this discussion
dovetailed with my plans to present and explore the issues inherent to what
I call "The Hidden (or excluded) Field of Women." As Eimear so beautifully
writes, we may be called to recognize the ".complex human relationships
that include all the power dynamics, [have] awareness of whose perspectives
get internalised (i.e. mostly those of the more powerful) in issues of
consent, [be] more integrative of what is felt, seen, known in multiple
ways and resonant within the larger field." Perhaps the historical and
present disparity of socio/political/spiritual and economic power between
men and women cannot be ignored when exploring issues such as consent,
"love", and integrated beliefs of the power structure. Such exploration may
require moving into a larger field.
An expanded field that acknowledges the 5000 years of patriarchal power,
with non-judgment, may view issues of consent and expressed "love and
happiness" very differently. It may acknowledge history and include the
reality of the disenfranchised place of women in culture and how that
impacts issues of consent in women today; through both entanglements and
current cultural structures. It may acknowledge, and challenge, the
integrated belief system that women (and children called women), can only
find their inherent value and meaning by being "chosen" by the powerful or
desirable man. This belief system has strong roots in our past and solid
footing in our present. There are many women, who "love" and "consent" to
their abusers, pimps, etc out of the necessity to live. The larger field
may speak to issues of consent, not from a place of judging this person or
that person, but rather, with an expanded perception of power and its
correlation to one's ability to truly consent.
What happens to the woman who does not consent or who does not agree with
her parents' integrated beliefs of the power structure that shows up in the
Constellation Field as her Family Field? Is she silenced? Does she know to
stay in hiding even within the Constellation itself? The expanded field
might provide space and permission for her to honor her ancestors and
refuse to integrate the belief systems of the power structure. Perhaps a
more expanded field will reveal the universally indigenous source of power
from which one may truly consent or not.
With Gratitude,
Carolyn
Carolyn Zahner, MSW, LISW, Inc
513-697-0260
