[CoMoDev] Re: Shared Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server anyone?
- From: David Beers <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Mark Moss <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:26:45 -0700
Yeah, that's exactly right. And it's easy to demo it for clients before you
install it on their production server.
David
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:50:13 -0700, Mark Moss wrote:
> David
>
>
> The other things that you get with someone else hosting your server
> is 99.9 percent uptime, daily backups, and when you test your
> software you really know that it will work over the internet.
>
>
> Mark Moss
> 719.262.0250
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Beers" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:40 AM
> Subject: [CoMoDev] Re: Shared Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL
> server anyone?
>
>
>> Yeah, I've used VMWare before, but what I really want is a server
>> that
>>
> looks out on the Internet so that I can not just test software but
> run collaborative software like CVS. I'm starting a project where
> I'll be working with another local developer remotely and need some
> good version control software. I guess another possibility would
> be to let folks I collaborate with VPN into my network, but I'm not
> much of a network administrator so that wigs me out a bit. My
> preference is to look at something offsite where someone else is
> handling all the routine administrative stuff and keeping things
> purring along.
>
>>
>> I guess what I'm saying is that I really *do* want a production
>> server:
>>
> it's just that the part of what it does that will need to have
> fairly high availability is CVS and maybe some project management
> software like PHPCollab. Most hosting companies won't install
> stuff like CVS for you: you have to pay for (at minimum) a virtual
> private server that you have root access to and do the installation
> yourself. I've even had some trouble running PHP apps like
> PHPCollab on the servers where I host pikesoft.com because I have
> to cajole the admins into doing PHP configurations and patches, or
> to reboot the box when needed, which is sometimes a pain.
>
>>
>> I know there are inexpensive CVS hosts out there, too, like
>> CVSDude. But
>>
> they're *just* for CVS as far as I can tell and I'd also like to be
> able to set up a Java environment to install and test other stuff.
>
>>
>> There's one other thing that might be interesting to look into for
>>
> collaborative programming: P2P. Anybody tried any P2P
> collaboration software that does version control? I worked for a
> client that used Groove for a while, which was nice, but we all had
> separate modules we were working on so VC issues didn't really
> arise much. Anyway, Groove is *way* to expensive for me. But
> maybe something open source? Perhaps if I had a great P2P way to
> do concurrent development that would be good enough that I wouldn't
> need a server out there on the Internet. We could all do testing
> of server software locally and that might be fine.
>
>>
>> David
>> =========================
>> David Beers
>> Pikesoft Mobile Computing
>> www.pikesoft.com
>> 719-963-2319
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:39:36 -0800 (PST), Jason Simpkins wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, for about $100.00 one time cost you can get VMware
>>> Workstation, and set up your own linux server on your own PC.
>>> RH and Suse come with all the software you need. This is what I
>>> use at work, and its great.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> --- David Beers <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like 1and1.com is about at the market rate for a
>>>> (virtual) server that you can admin yourself: $49/mo. That's
>>>> a lot better than a dedicated server. Kevin, are you using
>>>> one of these virtual servers (with Windows) or is your
>>>> account just one of the web hosting accounts that doesn't
>>>> give you admin rights on the server?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also looking at these guys:
>>>> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp. For the same
>>>> price you can get a Red Hat distro that has stuff like Tomcat
>>>> and JBoss pre-installed and has some nice software for
>>>> configuring stuff like CVS, which I want for collaborative
>>>> development.
>>>>
>>>> $50/mo is still kind of a hit, cheapskate that I am. Anybody
>>>> want to go in with me on this? If not would there be more
>>>> interest in sharing a Windows server? Come to think of it I
>>>> can run JBoss, MySQL and CVS on Windows and also have IIS and
>>>> SQL Server there for .NET development, so for the extra
>>>> $20/mo maybe that would be the best anyway. Any takers? It's
>>>> not going to be a production machine: there'd be plenty of
>>>> room for other folks to play in my sandbox!
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> =========================
>>>> David Beers
>>>> Pikesoft Mobile Computing
>>>> www.pikesoft.com
>>>> 719-963-2319
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:07:05 -0700, Mark Moss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to www.1and1.com $19.99 per month 4GB web
>>>>>
>>>> space, MySQL included
>>>>
>>>>> Mark Moss
>>>>> 719.262.0250
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Beers" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
>>>>> <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [CoMoDev]
>>>>> Shared
>>>>>
>>>> Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server
>>>>
>>>>> anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just testing the water at the moment, but I'm
>>>>>>
>>>> thinking about
>>>>>> getting a
>>>>>>
>>>>> Linux server at some hosting company that can run
>>>>>
>>>> JBoss, MySQL,
>>>>> stuff like that. Maybe not a dedicated server but
>>>>>
>>>> one of those
>>>>> "virtual private servers" that lets you configure,
>>>>>
>>>> start and
>>>>> restart any service without shutting down people
>>>>>
>>>> on other paid
>>>>> subscriptions. My use of it would probably be
>>>>>
>>>> fairly sporadic for
>>>>> now and I'm wondering if anyone else has an
>>>>>
>>>> interest in going in
>>>>> together on something like this. We'd of course
>>>>>
>>>> need to become
>>>>> friendly! :-) It's not quite like sharing a
>>>>>
>>>> toothbrush, but
>>>>> almost, eh?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively, if someone has such a server
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> already that they
>>>>>> would like
>>>>>>
>>>>> to "rent out" some cycles and space on maybe I
>>>>>
>>>> could help defray
>>>>> your costs. Also if anyone can recommend a good
>>>>>
>>>> hosting company,
>>>>> please do. I found this one that will give you a
>>>>>
>>>> VPS suitable for
>>>>> running JBoss for $50/mo, which sounds good:
>>>>> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp. I
>>>>>
>>>> need to have root
>>>>> access so I can install software and have full
>>>>>
>>>> rights, etc. so a
>>>>> regular web site hosting package would probably
>>>>>
>>>> not cut it. I'm
>>>>> interested in having the freedom to admin when I
>>>>>
>>>> need to but don't
>>>>> want to have to be the main babysitter. Or maybe
>>>>>
>>>> since I'm not not
>>>>> much of a Linux guy yet I should say I'd like the
>>>>>
>>>> freedom to make
>>>>> mistakes while having responsible adults on hand
>>>>>
>>>> to rescue me when
>>>>> I do.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking down the road (maybe not far down) it'd
>>>>>>
>>>> be kinda cool to
>>>>>> set up
>>>>>>
>>>>> CVS and some collaboration software on a server
>>>>>
>>>> that could be used
>>>>> when CoMoDev members collaborate on projects. I've
>>>>>
>>>> always hoped
>>>>> that our group might evolve into being an
>>>>>
>>>> incubator for some
>>>>> "virtual companies" on the Front Range.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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