[CoMoDev] Re: Shared Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server anyone?

  • From: David Beers <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:40:54 -0700

Yeah, I've used VMWare before, but what I really want is a server that looks 
out on the Internet so that I can not just test software but run collaborative 
software like CVS.  I'm starting a project where I'll be working with another 
local developer remotely and need some good version control software.  I guess 
another possibility would be to let folks I collaborate with VPN into my 
network, but I'm not much of a network administrator so that wigs me out a bit. 
 My preference is to look at something offsite where someone else is handling 
all the routine administrative stuff and keeping things purring along.

I guess what I'm saying is that I really *do* want a production server: it's 
just that the part of what it does that will need to have fairly high 
availability is CVS and maybe some project management software like PHPCollab.  
Most hosting companies won't install stuff like CVS for you: you have to pay 
for (at minimum) a virtual private server that you have root access to and do 
the installation yourself.  I've even had some trouble running PHP apps like 
PHPCollab on the servers where I host pikesoft.com because I have to cajole the 
admins into doing PHP configurations and patches, or to reboot the box when 
needed, which is sometimes a pain.

I know there are inexpensive CVS hosts out there, too, like CVSDude.  But 
they're *just* for CVS as far as I can tell and I'd also like to be able to set 
up a Java environment to install and test other stuff.  

There's one other thing that might be interesting to look into for 
collaborative programming: P2P.  Anybody tried any P2P collaboration software 
that does version control?  I worked for a client that used Groove for a while, 
which was nice, but we all had separate modules we were working on so VC issues 
didn't really arise much.  Anyway, Groove is *way* to expensive for me.  But 
maybe something open source?  Perhaps if I had a great P2P way to do concurrent 
development that would be good enough that I wouldn't need a server out there 
on the Internet.  We could all do testing of server software locally and that 
might be fine.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:39:36 -0800 (PST), Jason Simpkins wrote:
> Shoot, for about $100.00 one time cost you can get VMware
> Workstation,  and set up your own linux server on your own PC.  RH
> and Suse come with all the software you need.  This is what I use
> at work,  and its great.
> Jason
> --- David Beers <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> It looks like 1and1.com is about at the market rate for a
>> (virtual) server that you can admin yourself: $49/mo.  That's a
>> lot better than a dedicated server.  Kevin, are you using one of
>> these virtual servers (with Windows) or is your account just one
>> of the web hosting accounts that doesn't give you admin rights on
>> the server?
>> I'm also looking at these guys:
>> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp.  For the same price
>> you can get a Red Hat distro that has stuff like Tomcat and JBoss
>> pre-installed and has some nice software for configuring stuff
>> like CVS, which I want for collaborative development.
>> $50/mo is still kind of a hit, cheapskate that I am. Anybody want
>> to go in with me on this?  If not would there be more interest in
>> sharing a Windows server?  Come to think of it I can run JBoss,
>> MySQL and CVS on Windows and also have IIS and SQL Server there
>> for .NET development, so for the extra $20/mo maybe that would be
>> the best anyway.  Any takers? It's not going to be a production
>> machine: there'd be plenty of room for other folks to play in my
>> sandbox!
>> David
>> =========================
>> David Beers
>> Pikesoft Mobile Computing
>> www.pikesoft.com
>> 719-963-2319
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:07:05 -0700, Mark Moss wrote:
>>> David
>>> Go to  www.1and1.com  $19.99 per month 4GB web
>> space, MySQL included
>>> Mark Moss
>>> 719.262.0250
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Beers" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
>>> <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [CoMoDev]
>>> Shared
>> Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server
>>> anyone?
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> Just testing the water at the moment, but I'm
>> thinking about
>>>> getting a
>>> Linux server at some hosting company that can run
>> JBoss, MySQL,
>>> stuff like that.  Maybe not a dedicated server but
>> one of those
>>> "virtual private servers" that lets you configure,
>> start and
>>> restart any service without shutting down people
>> on other paid
>>> subscriptions.  My use of it would probably be
>> fairly sporadic for
>>> now and I'm wondering if anyone else has an
>> interest in going in
>>> together on something like this.  We'd of course
>> need to become
>>> friendly! :-)  It's not quite like sharing a
>> toothbrush, but
>>> almost, eh?
>>>> Alternatively, if someone has such a server
>> already that they
>>>> would like
>>> to "rent out" some cycles and space on maybe I
>> could help defray
>>> your costs. Also if anyone can recommend a good
>> hosting company,
>>> please do.  I found this one that will give you a
>> VPS suitable for
>>> running JBoss for $50/mo, which sounds good:
>>> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp.  I
>> need to have root
>>> access so I can install software and have full
>> rights, etc. so a
>>> regular web site hosting package would probably
>> not cut it. I'm
>>> interested in having the freedom to admin when I
>> need to but don't
>>> want to have to be the main babysitter.  Or maybe
>> since I'm not not
>>> much of a Linux guy yet I should say I'd like the
>> freedom to make
>>> mistakes while having responsible adults on hand
>> to rescue me when
>>> I do.
>>>> Looking down the road (maybe not far down) it'd
>> be kinda cool to
>>>> set up
>>> CVS and some collaboration software on a server
>> that could be used
>>> when CoMoDev members collaborate on projects. I've
>> always hoped
>>> that our group might evolve into being an
>> incubator for some
>>> "virtual companies" on the Front Range.
>>>> David
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