[CoMoDev] Re: Shared Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server anyone?

  • From: "Mark Moss" <markmoss@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:50:13 -0700

David


        The other things that you get with someone else hosting your server
is 99.9 percent uptime, daily backups, and when you test your software you
really know that it will work over the internet.


Mark Moss
719.262.0250


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Beers" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: [CoMoDev] Re: Shared Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server anyone?


> Yeah, I've used VMWare before, but what I really want is a server that
looks out on the Internet so that I can not just test software but run
collaborative software like CVS.  I'm starting a project where I'll be
working with another local developer remotely and need some good version
control software.  I guess another possibility would be to let folks I
collaborate with VPN into my network, but I'm not much of a network
administrator so that wigs me out a bit.  My preference is to look at
something offsite where someone else is handling all the routine
administrative stuff and keeping things purring along.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is that I really *do* want a production server:
it's just that the part of what it does that will need to have fairly high
availability is CVS and maybe some project management software like
PHPCollab.  Most hosting companies won't install stuff like CVS for you: you
have to pay for (at minimum) a virtual private server that you have root
access to and do the installation yourself.  I've even had some trouble
running PHP apps like PHPCollab on the servers where I host pikesoft.com
because I have to cajole the admins into doing PHP configurations and
patches, or to reboot the box when needed, which is sometimes a pain.
>
> I know there are inexpensive CVS hosts out there, too, like CVSDude.  But
they're *just* for CVS as far as I can tell and I'd also like to be able to
set up a Java environment to install and test other stuff.
>
> There's one other thing that might be interesting to look into for
collaborative programming: P2P.  Anybody tried any P2P collaboration
software that does version control?  I worked for a client that used Groove
for a while, which was nice, but we all had separate modules we were working
on so VC issues didn't really arise much.  Anyway, Groove is *way* to
expensive for me.  But maybe something open source?  Perhaps if I had a
great P2P way to do concurrent development that would be good enough that I
wouldn't need a server out there on the Internet.  We could all do testing
of server software locally and that might be fine.
>
> David
> =========================
> David Beers
> Pikesoft Mobile Computing
> www.pikesoft.com
> 719-963-2319
>
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:39:36 -0800 (PST), Jason Simpkins wrote:
> > Shoot, for about $100.00 one time cost you can get VMware
> > Workstation, and set up your own linux server on your own PC. RH
> > and Suse come with all the software you need. This is what I use
> > at work, and its great.
> >
> > Jason
> > --- David Beers <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> It looks like 1and1.com is about at the market rate for a
> >> (virtual) server that you can admin yourself: $49/mo. That's a
> >> lot better than a dedicated server. Kevin, are you using one of
> >> these virtual servers (with Windows) or is your account just one
> >> of the web hosting accounts that doesn't give you admin rights on
> >> the server?
> >>
> >> I'm also looking at these guys:
> >> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp. For the same price
> >> you can get a Red Hat distro that has stuff like Tomcat and JBoss
> >> pre-installed and has some nice software for configuring stuff
> >> like CVS, which I want for collaborative development.
> >>
> >> $50/mo is still kind of a hit, cheapskate that I am. Anybody want
> >> to go in with me on this? If not would there be more interest in
> >> sharing a Windows server? Come to think of it I can run JBoss,
> >> MySQL and CVS on Windows and also have IIS and SQL Server there
> >> for .NET development, so for the extra $20/mo maybe that would be
> >> the best anyway. Any takers? It's not going to be a production
> >> machine: there'd be plenty of room for other folks to play in my
> >> sandbox!
> >>
> >> David
> >> =========================
> >> David Beers
> >> Pikesoft Mobile Computing
> >> www.pikesoft.com
> >> 719-963-2319
> >>
> >> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:07:05 -0700, Mark Moss wrote:
> >>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>> Go to www.1and1.com $19.99 per month 4GB web
> >>>
> >> space, MySQL included
> >>
> >>> Mark Moss
> >>> 719.262.0250
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "David Beers" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
> >>> <comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [CoMoDev]
> >>> Shared
> >>>
> >> Linux/Apache/Tomcat/JBoss/MySQL server
> >>
> >>> anyone?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Just testing the water at the moment, but I'm
> >>>>
> >> thinking about
> >>>> getting a
> >>>>
> >>> Linux server at some hosting company that can run
> >>>
> >> JBoss, MySQL,
> >>> stuff like that. Maybe not a dedicated server but
> >>>
> >> one of those
> >>> "virtual private servers" that lets you configure,
> >>>
> >> start and
> >>> restart any service without shutting down people
> >>>
> >> on other paid
> >>> subscriptions. My use of it would probably be
> >>>
> >> fairly sporadic for
> >>> now and I'm wondering if anyone else has an
> >>>
> >> interest in going in
> >>> together on something like this. We'd of course
> >>>
> >> need to become
> >>> friendly! :-) It's not quite like sharing a
> >>>
> >> toothbrush, but
> >>> almost, eh?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Alternatively, if someone has such a server
> >>>>
> >> already that they
> >>>> would like
> >>>>
> >>> to "rent out" some cycles and space on maybe I
> >>>
> >> could help defray
> >>> your costs. Also if anyone can recommend a good
> >>>
> >> hosting company,
> >>> please do. I found this one that will give you a
> >>>
> >> VPS suitable for
> >>> running JBoss for $50/mo, which sounds good:
> >>> http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp. I
> >>>
> >> need to have root
> >>> access so I can install software and have full
> >>>
> >> rights, etc. so a
> >>> regular web site hosting package would probably
> >>>
> >> not cut it. I'm
> >>> interested in having the freedom to admin when I
> >>>
> >> need to but don't
> >>> want to have to be the main babysitter. Or maybe
> >>>
> >> since I'm not not
> >>> much of a Linux guy yet I should say I'd like the
> >>>
> >> freedom to make
> >>> mistakes while having responsible adults on hand
> >>>
> >> to rescue me when
> >>> I do.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking down the road (maybe not far down) it'd
> >>>>
> >> be kinda cool to
> >>>> set up
> >>>>
> >>> CVS and some collaboration software on a server
> >>>
> >> that could be used
> >>> when CoMoDev members collaborate on projects. I've
> >>>
> >> always hoped
> >>> that our group might evolve into being an
> >>>
> >> incubator for some
> >>> "virtual companies" on the Front Range.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
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