Also, Sue... I for one would be *very* pleased if we could get you for a presentation at some time when your schedule permits. I thought your J2ME Bootcamp at the DJUG in June was *excellent*. David On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:34:54 -0600, David Beers wrote: > Pervasive computing. I like that term! > > > I'd agree with Bud that architecting the solution is the biggest > challenge for me. Part of that is probably because I didn't come > out of an enterprise development background (unless you count web > development, which is quite a different animal). I suspect that my > particular trajectory into this space isn't the most common, though. > > > Here's the dilemma I'm working with. Being basically a one-man > show means my typical client tends to be small- to medium-sized > businesses who have an interest in deploying Field Force Automation > solutions just like bigger companies do. But where the big > companies can make powerful synchronization solutions like > Intellisync Mobile Suite or ExtendConnect OneBridge work cost- > effectively--and these are easy to work with from a developer > standpoint--they aren't well suited for companies with less than > 100 seats. > > > If we're talking about Palm OS devices this often means writing a > custom HotSync conduit, but that doesn't work well if you have > enough users that concurrency issues are likely. And of course it > doesn't help with non-Palm applications, where you have to write > things like ActiveSync Service Providers (nasty, from what I > understand) or use RAPI or SQL Merge Replication. The technologies > are so vastly different that aside from understanding > synchronization at an abstract level there is next to nothing you > can transfer from one platform to the next. I have so many > development environments and APIs that I have to keep in my head > now it's not even funny. > > > Of course, that brings us to Java--or at least can bring us there. > I'm starting to do more work in Java now on the device-side (or > SuperWaba, at least, which is compliant with the language even > though it has its own libraries). What I'd really like to > understand better is how Java could help me deal with synchronizing > application data to database servers in multi-user scenarios. > > > Getting back to the enterprise stuff, there are a couple of things > that I'd love to hear you respond to. Two stumbling blocks for > bigger companies considering rolling out mobile solutions are > deployment and systems management. Software updates are a > nightmare if there isn't a way that you can push them out to > hundreds of users with minimal to zero intervention on their part. > And what happens if a user loses a device that has sensitive > corporate data on it? You have to convince big companies that the > mobile devices aren't going to impose a huge administrative burden > on them, which is why outfits like Intellisync are doing good > business: they've worked that stuff out. If I could do no-touch > deployments and maybe even remotely disable a lost device and I > didn't have to see a big chunk of my client's budget go to > Intellisync to accomplish it, I'd be a happy camper. > > > David > ========================= > David Beers > Pikesoft Mobile Computing > www.pikesoft.com > > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:11:41 -0600, Bud Cookson wrote: > >> One of the things that we always struggle with is the >> architecture. That is the key starting point but there are so >> many options that it becomes a huge matrix of possibilities. >> Especially when you incorporate the LAN / WAN architecture on top >> of the development architecture. Just our biggest stumbling >> block. BUD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: comodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:comodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Spielman >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:55 PM To: comodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [CoMoDev] Pervasive computing >> >> Hi all. Usually I wouldn't blast this out to a list, but I >> thought that it might be a fun way to get some cool ideas and >> also to see what types of things people have seen in their >> various travels. >> >> I'm putting together a new presentation on pervasive computing >> called 'Integrating Mobile Data in the Enterprise'. Here's the >> full session description that I'll be doing at JAOO in Denmark in >> Sept. http://www.jaoo.dk/speakers/show_speaker.jsp?oid=72 >> >> >> Anyway...I'm in the process of putting this together and would >> like to start a conversation and get some feedback on a couple of >> things: -If you were sitting in this presentation, what would you >> be interested in hearing about? >> -If you've worked on Mobile enterprise apps, would you like to >> share some of your experiences...like roadblocks, technology >> hiccups, data issues...etc -Have you seen resistance to any types >> of technology being used in the field...lie field force >> automation apps? -If you haven't worked on mobile enterprise >> apps, what types of questions do you have about them? -Anything >> else you'd like to add :). >> >> Any and all thoughts are welcome for discuss. As soon as I can >> make a meeting with my travel schedule...I'd be happy to present >> this to the group at some point :)! >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Sue >> President/Senior Consulting Engineer >> Switchback Software LLC >> http://www.switchbacksoftware.com >> Providing a full range of J2EE and J2ME software development and >> consulting services PH: 303.838.6643 FX: 303.838.6649