[bvipilots] Re: How can you tell if your aircraft isaircraft equipped with the Garmin 500 GPS unit?

  • From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 16:43:39 -0700

Hello Hadi,

Please either read the Newsletter you received today, or go to the
Revisions section of the site for the use of the GPS guidance to VOR, NDB
or Intersectional waypoints.

Good luck with VATSIM.

Regards,
Robert




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Hello
> It's simple. the approach will first of all either clear you a visual
> approach or ILS. if visual, i will *always* request an ILS approach, and
> they will approve.
> Here's the most complex communication that would happen in vatsim for
> approach
>
> "Delta1022, expect visual approach runway 12L. do you have the  desni6d
> approach procedure on board?"
> "Approach, can we request an ILS approach via radar vectoring?"
> "Delta1022, expect vectors for ILS approach runway  12L."
> And there i go, all handled by ATC.
> In USA, they will always vector you, either visual or  ILS, so i only have
> to request ILS once they give me visual approach.
> but in europe, (exclude UK), They mostly want you to fly the STAR, which
> gets resolved by requesting an ILS approach.
>
> The situation that i explained regarding the "proceed direct to XXX"
> mostly applies to one of these:
> 1: After  takeoff, instead of doing the SID, ATC tells you to proceed
> direct to <waypoint>
> 2: When approaching, the amount of traffic is very high, thus the ATC
> tries to shape the traffic in his own way so they could be headed for one
> way in approach and not scattered all over the place, so they  direct all
> the inbound aircrafts to a cirtain waypoint, then from there, they either
> expect them to do the STAR, or  mostly radar vector them for landing.
>
> Strange, i have not seen the let's fly direct to V O R XXX command. is it
> new? I'm sure the VOR navigation  commands was first  to set the frequency,
> then tune in to the VOR and fly inbound.
>
>
> On 5/22/2014 3:14 AM, Robert Cezar wrote:
>
> Hadi,
>
>  If you are going to be flying using VATSIM, and they instruct you to
> descend and maintain FL 240 and proceed direct to V O R, E L W or N D B, X
> X, simply say...
>
>  "Descend and maintain flight level 2 4 0".
> "Michelle, let's fly direct to V O R, E L W."
> "Resume GPS navigation".
>
>  Michelle will fly to that waypoint.
>
>  Then what?
>
>  ATC will likely direct you to make the approach via a STAR!  Now what?
>
>  Please advise.
>
>  Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  "Delta1022, descend and maintain flightlevel 240, proceed direct to
>> LHGLUGLHLGUGLHLGULGUGHLGULHGHL"
>> "Center request direct heading to hgluglhlgughlughl?"
>> "Delta1022, turn left heading 240. after ghluglughlulgh cleared
>> flightlevel 100"
>>
>> Um, michel? what do we do now you got any ideas?
>> Michel: "Captain shut up its my plane."
>> But i amm flying online I need to go to manual flying
>> Michel: "It's your fault that you fly online, I will absolutely hold no
>> responsibility for any explosions, damages and crashes to this aircraft
>> once you take controls from me."
>> Right! it's my plane. turn left heading 240,
>> "Center I don't have any ideas about the position of  hlughlughlugh
>> waypoint, let me know when i have to descend to fl100"
>> "Delta1022 jees, roger".
>>
>> This is how you fly in online.  (JK do not do this in VATSIM, it's very
>> hard~)
>>
>> Anyway, It would be so cool to see/read the waypoints around you and
>> their direct BRG to them, but  possibly only for me, You really don't want
>> to mess around like this when you're flying.
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/2014 1:47 AM, Robert Cezar wrote:
>>
>> Regrettably, I see absolutely no need for this facility for BVI pilots.
>> It is entirely a visual paradigm.
>>
>>  Regards,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I think the subject tells it all.
>>> How can you tell if the aircraft you want to fly is equipped with the
>>> Garmin 500 GPS unit?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
>>> "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."
>>
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