[bookshare-discuss] Re: Request to not post "books submitted" here
- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:55:10 -0700
Hello Liz,
I just want to say I agree with you completely, and I am hopeful that the
Bookshare staff will be able to take a leadership position in the tighter
moderation of both lists. Both lists are and should be a valuable asset and
important resource for the ongoing operation of the Bookshare project. :-)
I feel that bksvol-discuss should *only* be used for discussion of matters
directly relevant to scanning, validation or related volunteer activities,
while even bookshare-discuss should only be used for discussion of other,
non-volunteer aspects of the Bookshare project. I'm even saying that
anything not directly related to Bookshare ought to be off topic even for
bookshare-discuss. There are other mailing lists for other topics. :-)
I'm hoping that a web based solution can someday be devised for the list of
books being scanned, wish list, etc.
Thanks for all the work you and others do to make books more accessible. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Request to not post "books submitted" here
Flame me out if ya want, folks. But I do have another pet peeve, this one
about list traffic. I am not naming any specific names because I honestly
haven't paid attention to it.
I know on the volunteer list, recently there had been a lot of angst about
the volume of list traffic. The original purpose of the two lists, which
Lisa Friendly stepped in herself and reiterated was: Volunteer List for
volunteers only, to focus on scanning, submitting, validating, and other
related issues. The bookshare-discuss list was for all members, and NOT to
focus on submitting issues. It was also to hold the carry-over Off-Topic
conversations from the volunteer list. Stuff like the Publisher Quality
books, areas of collections of books that members would like to see,
general questions about Bookshare, the quality of books coming out, web page
design, etc. Nice. Very different content on both.
However, there has been a trend for volunteers to announce on the general
discussion list books they have submitted, maybe looking for validators, for
whatever reason. The reason given is usually, "well, not all volunteers are
on the volunteer list." Hello! If so, it's *for a reason.* (I recently quit
that list again for traffic flow and superfluous content.) As a volunteer, I
can go to the volunteer page and Books in Processing and see what's
happening. There's no reason for this info to be posted on the general list.
If it's to inform members of books to expect, I recommend not making that
announcement. Who knows how long for validation, processing, conversion,
possible rejection, and so on? And when I was on both lists, then I got the
same post, cross posted, and it doubled my traffic list.
I think this is a valid conversation for the bookshare-discuss list. (Yes, I
am fully aware of the delete key, but it's still a waste of energy to find
the post and have to check it and to see that I choose to delete!)
What do the rest of you think?
Liz in Portland, feeling cranky, sorry
Liz Halperin
Portland, OR
lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
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