[bookport] Re: never mind my last question, but a fewcomments

  • From: Robert Carter <r-carter@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:16:58 -0500

Hi,

With a couple of Web Braille books, I have noticed that the page number 
seems to be about one number less than what the book is actually showing. 
In other words, page 49 according to the braille page number will be shown 
as page 48 by the Book Port page numbering system. Has anyone else noticed 
this?

Robert Carter

At 08:09 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
>Robert:
>
>Page numbers are, in many cases, not related to any page numbers that may =
>or may not exist in the material. Following are some examples of how page =
>numbers are used.
>
>when you send a text file, the unit always starts with page 1, and will do =
>one of two things:
>
>1. If the file contains form feeds, they will be considered page breaks.
>
>2. If the file does not contain page breaks, the software will insert what =
>we call synthetic page breaks. Synthetic page breaks are currently =
>inserted after every eight paragraphs.
>
>When you send a .brf file, the software attempts to identify Braille page =
>numbering.
>
>If you send an MP3 file, you will start at page one, and every long pause =
>will be considered a new page. Using Send As Music will cause a page break =
>every 30 seconds.
>
>With Audible files a page is currently 5 minutes or the next section, =
>which ever comes first. Of course, they always start at page one.
>
>With Digital Talking Books which contain page mark-up, page numbers will =
>correspond to the page numbers in the original book. These books are the =
>most accurate use of the page numbering system.
>
>Rob Meredith
>
> >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx 06/09/04 08:53AM >>>
>Hi All,
>
>I think the current combo box scheme is just fine. It seems to allow one =
>to=20
>easily select the default which is the whole file if that will fit or =
>one=20
>can select the amount that they want to send. I think it all works great. =
>I=20
>think it is too bad that only format 4 is supported as those files are=20
>really large but I understand that is how it had to be.
>
>I have already read a couple of audible books on the Book Port and love =
>how=20
>easily it is to move back by a phrase if you want a sentence repeated. =
>What=20
>is the logic behind the page numbering system? In other words, how does =
>the=20
>Book Port determine what page you are on in an audible file or in a =
>file=20
>that started out as a .brf file for that matter?
>
>Robert Carter
>
>At 07:31 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
> >Paul:
> >
> >You have to load each part of a book separately, because there is nothing =
>=3D
> >binding those files together as a book. Yeah, the file names are similar, =
>=3D
> >but you can't always count on this because of inconsistent naming.
> >
> >Regarding the combo boxes for start and end times...
> >
> >It sounds like someone like you should just ignore the boxes and press =
>=3D
> >Enter to get whatever will fit. The default for a file which is not on =
>the =3D
> >device already is to start at the beginning, and send as much as will =
>fit. =3D
> >If you already have the file on the device, the default is to start at =
>=3D
> >your last reading position and send as much as will fit.
> >
> >We had to come up with some kind of scheme to allow selecting how much of =
>=3D
> >an Audible file to send, and 5 minute intervals seemed to be the best =3D
> >choice. Yeah, most people won't start at 15 minutes and send 30 minutes =
>of =3D
> >material, but Audible sections can range from very short to very long, =
>and =3D
> >limiting selections to sections would minimize flexibility for users with =
>=3D
> >small flash cards.
> >
> >Perhaps we could skip the dialog if all of the file will fit? What do =3D
> >others think about the current scheme?
> >
> >Rob Meredith
> >
> > >>> paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/08/04 10:19PM >>>
> >Hi, Larry and Rod. Never mind my last question. Turns out the book I =3D
> >was=3D20
> >trying to load was not type four.
> >I will have to go back and see if I can get it as type four.
> >However, some comments.
> >It takes an extremely long time to load one of these files, much =
>slower=3D20
> >than loading an mp3 file.
> >Also, I was surprised that in a book that contains more than one file, =
>=3D
> >I=3D20
> >have  to load each part separately.
> >And why the combo boxes that ask me where I want to start and end? If =
>I=3D20
> >have plenty of room, why would I not want to start at the beginning and =
>=3D
> >end=3D20
> >at the end<grin>? I don't understand the use of these boxes.
> >Why would I want to start five minutes in or more?
> >Thanks.

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