I agree totally, Bruce. This is not a blindness issue and should not be argued as if it were. People who won't assume some personal responsibility really shouldn't try to escalate every issue into a blindness-related one, since sooner or later, the cry of "wolf" is going to be heard once too often and people are just going to begin to turn off, including (possibly _particularly) people whose job it is to provide services to the blind. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: Labeling Chargers I also fear that we, as blind consumers, have taken the concept of accessibility from an effort to be equal with our sighted peers to an effort to be spoonfed. It's not enough any more to have the same kind of access, we want special access. As we have stated, chargers and adaptors tend not to be labeled for sighted people, yet we want them labeled for us. It's like when I was a very young kid. I'd often get wires and cables and cords tangled up. It got to the point where I was asking sighted people to untangle them for me. Finally someone correctly told me that it's not a blindness issue and there was no reason I shouldn't untangle the wires myself, as it was just as easy for me to do it as for a sighted person to do it. Similarly, we're starting to ask for features and conveniences that, to me, show laziness on our part, not proactiveness. Bruce