You know, the religious arguing on this list is an example of what is happening
all over the world. There are various religious sects fighting each other, like
different kinds of Muslims, fighting each other. Then we have people damning
all Muslims and insisting that Christianity is superior to Islam, that Islam is
more violent than Christianity. And we've had anti-Semitism for as long as the
Jewish religion has existed, it seems. And there have been conflicts among the
various branches of Judaism. And, of course, there are conflicts among the
various branches of Christianity also. I've talked to Evangelical Christians
who believe that their brand of Christianity is the only true Christianity. And
weren't there wars over whether or not the Catholic Church should be dominant
in various European countries? There was the Reformation. And now we have the
New Atheists who differ from old fashioned atheists in that they are as
missionary minded as Mustafa.
Couldn't we please just stop having this same old tired debate on this list.
Can't everybody just believe what he or she wishes to believe without
attempting to impose those beliefs, whether they be Muslim, Christian,
Agnostic, or Atheist, on everybody else?
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
, as I've said before, you are a carbon copy of the Christian fanatic, only you
put Allah's banner on the top of your flag pole in place of the Cross.
You wrote, "Allah blessed you
with numerous bounties to test whether you will be grateful or ungrateful.
This is His divine statute, glory be to Him."
And what about those several millions of Indigenous People already caring for
this bountiful land? Are you suggesting that Allah is prejudiced against the
American Indian? Did Allah "allow" White Europeans to enslave Black Africans
because the Europeans needed to learn how to play nice to Blacks? Or had those
bad Africans earned the enslavement that crushed them for hundreds of years?
Allah, may He rest in peace, and God, let Him rest eternally, are simply Make
Believe Genies. They may be called on as friendly Genies if times are good,
and they can be sent back into their lantern when times are bad.
That makes more sense than pretending that Allah and God are allowing one
people to crush another in order to "allow" them an opportunity to test their
gratitude." Huh??? Say that again? This is exactly the same babble that the
Southern Radio Evangelist shouts to his devoted Jesus Lovers.
If God and Allah are the best Gods we can dream up, what more proof do you need
to demonstrate that both come from within Man's limited Dream World?
Carl Jarvis
On 11/9/17, Bob <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The United States is a prominently spacious territory. It is close
to be a
continent. It is known for its unevidently tautened principles of
democracy, justice and equality. However, these values are
intemperately sniped with bigotry, xenophobia, racial segregation,
pride, hate incitement, derision and mass impudence. Americans often
have these concepts
mixed up. Free speech and hate rhetoric, the right to bear arms and
gun violence, liberty and travesty, pride and dignity. Politics torn
your nation
apart. Therefore, your imperial era is about to diminish. Allah
blessed you
with numerous bounties to test whether you will be grateful or ungrateful.
This is His divine statute, glory be to Him. What brought Donald Trump
to oval office? Despite what was being said about Russian meddling in
past elections, Allah is willing to providentially penalise
wrongdoers. Donald Trump is obviously rapscallion, racialist, bigoted,
unreliable, unconscionable, propagandist, dishonourable, misanthrope,
prurient, flamboyant, aweless and dissembler. He won against his
rivals with exercising fallacious rhetoric. He abhorrently dissed each
and everyone. He
despicably affronted politicians, journalists and public figures. We
heard his emphatically offensive remarks against many people. This is
why educated
Americans are so upset. They are taken aback of this unpresidential
character to be elected. This is the divine manner. Allah says in the
Koran
what could be meaningly rendered as namely. And when We would destroy
a township, We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, and
afterward they commit abomination therein, and so the Word of doom
hath effect for it,
and we annihilate it with complete annihilation. This is a commentary
based
translation of verse sixteen in chapter seventeen. This verse matches
your
election conclusion in unrivalled precision. Donald Trump is
enormously affluent and thence, he is eligible to lead a nation that
is based on capitalistic tenets. He is deficient of basic adequacy to
manage a nursery or a small shop. His character matches what I call
typical nescience in imbecility. What arrogance does? Arrogance makes
its bearer blinded to see the truth. When you speak disparagingly of
other traditions, this is the beginning of your end. America’s
reputable status is on its edge to collapse. You may respectfully
disagree with other people. However, it certainly becomes a problem
when this disagreement turns into unsolicited conflict. You may
criticise others or even debate their views on particular
issues. Withal, it is a trouble if you desperately demand to
intolerantly demonise others to relentlessly justify your hostile
stance. Why don’t you folks learn from Canada? Canada is notably
recognised for its distinctive factors of practically promoting
diversity and multiculturalism. What is multiculturalism in Canada? It
is the doctrine that several different cultures rather than one can
coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country. So, you could
commonly encounter bits and bobs of everything. You don’t have to
forcefully be painted with certain colour to be welcomed there. This
is the plain difference between Canada and the States. In the States,
you have got to be Americanised in some form or another to be
accepted. This is what I call, the dominating disease of racism.
Abraham Lincoln emancipated slaves but unfortunately, he treated the
symptom and disposed the disease. Slavery was the symptom but racial
disparity is actually the disease. I will always repeat this
assertion, racism has to be
portrayed as a deadly sinful act. Otherwise, change won’t occur
anytime soon. As for the recently aggrieved mass shooting of Texas,
controversial arguments about gun control rose again. Why many
members of the National Rifle Association act carelessly about gun
safety and regulation? Despite the recurrence of fatal mass shootings
in various places, American legislative committees decline to
significantly straighten the situation out. People aren't safe at
Churches, concerts, malls, medical centres, campuses or school
complex. Trump said in multiple occasions that he take cares of all
Americans. Subsequent to New York's truck callous assault, he called
for more intense procedures and extremely enforced vetting to insure
potential terrorists aren't issued visas. However, he nearly acted
heedlessly concerning the massive shooting incident in Texas. Isn't
that a clear sign of double standard? This is the relentless prob I
have been encountering with your justice system for consecutive
decades. I knew for certain, many sensible and just Americans aren't
so pleased with what is happening in their country. Americans became numb to
such incidents.
Terrorism in their minds is only affiliated with Muslims. They aren't
stringent in their assessment. This is why I am often tempestuous with
American set of standards. This disposal of practicing double standard
is immensely prevalent. Whenever a white guy commits mass murder, he
is incessantly labelled as mentally imbalanced. However, if a Muslim
committed
that crime, he would have been instantly classified as a dire Muslim
radical
and the incident would have been considered an act of terror. The
portrait is now clearer than ever before. The question is, for how
long will we lie to ourselves? It is distinctly plain that we aren't
equal in their minds to
the white citizen who happend to be born there. Despite their
insistence to
deny this conclusion, evidence for it are gigantically triumphal. I do
not destine to unfairly extrapolate. I just desire to seek equatable
justice. I
attentively followed a three hours live coverage of the incident on Youtube.
I think it was published by ABC Radio. The show host spoke reasonably
and his remote guests were competently sane in their discussion. That
is one of
the reasons why I believe sensible Americans out there aren't
generically satisfied with the current situation. The problem will
firmly be fixed if we
redressed what is in my so humble opinion, a grave misinterpretation
of the
second amendment. I rendered my entailment on its essence previously.
I won't ingeminate this for now. I did not take the literal meaning of
the text. I rather went deeper to the legal spirit of the statute to
properly derive consistent discernment. It needs to be reviewed with
further accuracy, accountability and unprejudiced temperament. Thank
you so much for
loyally reading this piece. I keenly look forward to hearing from you.
Bob
