It was a very, very long trip. It involved New Zealand and then Australia. At
that time in my life, Art was still living in West L A so first I traveled
there from New York which takes 5 or 6 hours, and I stayed there for a day or
so. Then we began on this long, 20 hour trip. I think it was 20 hours. We had
to stop somewhere or other for a few hours because the plane was having a
problem. I think I remember seeing the sun rise twice in the same day. It's all
rather foggy in my mind now. I think it was foggy in my mind when it was
happening. We had various meals during that flight. That was 30 years ago. I
wonder if they feed coach passengers anything on that flight now. New Zealand
was like a large, expanded, exotic Ireland. Almost immediately after leaving
the airport, you started to see flocks of sheep. By the way, did you ever touch
one? You know how pretty and white and fluffy they look in the distance. Well,
when you touch them, they feel oily and disgusting. But anyway, there were
sheep and sheep herding dogs. I went in October which is Spring in the southern
hemisphere, but very early spring so it was cold and rainy in Auckland. But
there were lots of beautiful flowers in their park because the ground never
freezes there. They sell Maori art, have show Maori villages, and some white
New Zealanders proudly say they have Maori heritage. In other words, they
relate to their indigenous population just as Americans do to our's. And they
also had a marketplace where Maori people shop which was filled with
inexpensive horrible looking junk.
I look back at the traveling I've done and yes, it was terribly inconvenient
and took incredible amounts of time. But I'm so grateful for all the different
places I was able to experience and the things I learned, and I'm grateful that
I had a bit of vision and could actually see some things. But the best eating
experience was in France. There's nothing like it.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:53 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
Well Miriam, I do know one thing, I will never know that pleasure of eating oat
meal in New Zealand. I always wanted to visit that peaceful land, but there's
no way I could endure the long plane flight. And I can't afford a cruise ship.
When Dan Frye was working in New Zealand, Dan is now the director of blind
rehab in New Jersey, he and his wife invited Cathy and myself to come visit.
As tempting as the idea was, not only time with good friends, but no hotel
expenses, we turned them down. Frankly, as large a fellow as he is, I don't
know how Dan made the trip.
I have a cousin and her husband who are well retired and travel the world
around. They send us tons of photos, which Cathy describes to me. The idea of
spending time drifting down the Blue Danube or yodeling in the Austrian Alps is
inviting, until I remember that it's a long, long trip to get there.
And once upon a time I wanted to be a world traveler!
Carl Jarvis
On 11/12/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When I was little, my mother fed me oatmeal which I despised. I liked
farina and cream of wheat, but not oatmeal. Then in 1987, I was in New
Zealand. One of the wonderful things about New Zealand in 1987 was
that they had food like we used to have in the 1940's. They had the
most wonderful dairy, for example, no skimmed or 2% anything. Real
cream with coffee, wonderful whole milk. They also, by the way, served
baby lamb chops on the breakfast buffet in the Auckland hotel at which
we were staying. Anyway, somewhere else in New Zealand, they were
serving oatmeal for breakfast and I thought that I would try it, real
authentic oatmeal like in the good old days with cream.
And, in fact, it was deliscious. But it was so heavy and so rich, that
I could only eat a few spoonfuls of it. Here, when I first moved into
my apartment in 2006, I was eating quick cooking oatmeal for
breakfast. It was bland, nothing, not real food. I did add cinnamon.
By then I'd developed type 2 diabetes, controlled with a daily pill,
but I don't eat a lot of refined sugar and I'm careful about
additives. I regret not being able to eat that wonderful New Zealand oatmeal.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:39 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
Well Miriam, there's no accounting for some folks taste.
Being raised on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, it's hard to think
of someone who dosen't like the flavor. But after saying that, I
can't remember Cathy ever making herself a PJ sandwich. At times she
does spread a thin layer of peanut butter on her toast, instead of
butter, but she would never, ever eat a slice of peanut butter cream pie.
Which reminds me. I love a grilled cheese sandwich and a bowl of
tomato soup for lunch. Cathy can't stand the smell of that wonderful
soup. But she loves tomatoes.
One of the few things I will never again put in my mouth is cornmeal mush.
When I was a youngster, we ate tons of cornmeal mush on cold winter
mornings. Lumps! It always had lumps. I could hardly swallow them,
except I feared the wrath of mother even more than those gaggy lumps.
But I love oatmeal mush. Old fashioned rolled oats. Boil the water,
pour in the oats and stir, and let stand for five minutes. Sometimes
I add raisins and top it with 4% milk and brown sugar and sliced bananas.
Another way I like my cooked oat meal mush is to mix it with apple sauce.
And a real treat are oat meal cookies with raisins.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/12/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not allergic. I've just never liked peanut butter, or peanuts,
for that matter.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl ;
Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:38 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
Some folks use Almond Butter. I'm not much on the taste, but if you
are allergic to peanuts, it is a decent substitute. My son-in-law
Brian is highly allergic to peanuts. Even peas will make him sick,
but peanuts will kill him. When our eldest grand daughter comes to
Grandma's house, the first thing she wants is a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich, originally known as, Sammich.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/11/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'd like them just fine if you could find a substitute for the
peanut butter.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl ;
Jarvis
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:47 PM
To: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Cc: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
Sugar and peanut butter will make a cookie all right. But it helps
to have a binder to keep them from crumbling. My One One One recipe
calls for 1 egg; 1 cup sugar; 1 cup peanut butter. I blend the egg
and the sugar together and then fold in the peanut butter.
Baking temperature is at a very low setting. I heat the oven to
about
250 degrees and put teaspoon size globs on the greased cookie sheet,
usually pressing them down a little. Cook them for about 15 to 20
minutes.
I test them by tapping the cookie with my finger. If it's fairly
firm, they are done.
Since there is no flour in the mixture, we are actually melting the
ingredients together rather than baking them. No salt, no baking
soda and no flour.
And the easy thing is, you can increase the recipe as many times as
you wish.
I like them just the way they are, but Cathy says they're too sweet
for her.
Next time I make them I think I'll try mixing in some oatmeal and
raisins.
And maybe some chopped walnuts.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/10/17, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
How about this for a really simple peanut butter cooky. Mix equal
parts peanut butter and sugar thoroughly. Then mash out gobs of it
flat on a cooky sheet. I forget what temperature your oven should
be heated to, but 350 should do just fine. Bake for ten minutes.
The results are still a bit squishy, but let them cool and they
harden into cookies.
On 11/10/2017 4:36 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Well, I do really try to send the message that I don't care what
people believe, as far as religion goes. But that is because at
the same time I find myself saying that All religion is at the
bottom of our human troubles. So I can refrain...a little, but
Mostafa does crank my chain, and I go rumbling off with my cannons
of Peace, blazing. Still, if we adopt your approach to religious
discussion, and apply it to other beliefs, we will wind up
exchanging recipes and valentines. Which might not be such a bad
thing. Did I ever tell you how to make the most simplest of all
cookies? The One One One Cookie.
When I taught food service in the BEP, it was the first item my
students learned how to make.
We sold them in the cafeteria, two for a dime, and soon we had to
expand the One One One Cookie to a Four Four Four Cookie, in order
to make enough to meet the demand.
Carl Jarvis
On 11/10/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You know, the religious arguing on this list is an example of
what is happening all over the world. There are various religious
sects fighting each other, like different kinds of Muslims,
fighting each other. Then we have people damning all Muslims and
insisting that Christianity is superior to Islam, that Islam is
more violent than Christianity. And we've had anti-Semitism for
as long as the Jewish religion has existed, it seems.
And
there have been conflicts among the various branches of Judaism.
And, of course, there are conflicts among the various branches of
Christianity also.
I've talked to Evangelical Christians who believe that their
brand of Christianity is the only true Christianity. And weren't
there wars over whether or not the Catholic Church should be
dominant in various European countries? There was the
Reformation. And now we have the New Atheists who differ from old
fashioned atheists in that they are as missionary minded as Mustafa.
Couldn't we please just stop having this same old tired debate on
this list.
Can't everybody just believe what he or she wishes to believe
without attempting to impose those beliefs, whether they be
Muslim, Christian, Agnostic, or Atheist, on everybody else?
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl ;
Jarvis
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 10:52 AM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Bob Evans <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx>; Mostafa
<mostafa.almahdy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Americanisation fragile
, as I've said before, you are a carbon copy of the Christian
fanatic, only you put Allah's banner on the top of your flag pole
in place of the Cross.
You wrote, "Allah blessed you
with numerous bounties to test whether you will be grateful or
ungrateful.
This is His divine statute, glory be to Him."
And what about those several millions of Indigenous People
already caring for this bountiful land? Are you suggesting that
Allah is prejudiced against the American Indian? Did Allah
"allow" White Europeans to enslave Black Africans because the
Europeans needed to learn how to play nice to Blacks? Or had
those bad Africans earned the enslavement that crushed them for hundreds
of years?
Allah, may He rest in peace, and God, let Him rest eternally, are
simply Make Believe Genies. They may be called on as friendly
Genies if times are good, and they can be sent back into their
lantern when times are bad.
That makes more sense than pretending that Allah and God are
allowing one people to crush another in order to "allow" them an
opportunity to test their gratitude." Huh??? Say that again?
This is exactly the same babble that the Southern Radio
Evangelist shouts to his devoted Jesus Lovers.
If God and Allah are the best Gods we can dream up, what more
proof do you need to demonstrate that both come from within Man's
limited Dream World?
Carl Jarvis
On 11/9/17, Bob <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The United States is a prominently spacious territory. It is
close to be a
continent. It is known for its unevidently tautened principles of
democracy, justice and equality. However, these values are
intemperately sniped with bigotry, xenophobia, racial
segregation, pride, hate incitement, derision and mass impudence.
Americans often have these concepts
mixed up. Free speech and hate rhetoric, the right to bear arms
and gun violence, liberty and travesty, pride and dignity.
Politics torn your nation
apart. Therefore, your imperial era is about to diminish. Allah
blessed you
with numerous bounties to test whether you will be grateful or
ungrateful.
This is His divine statute, glory be to Him. What brought Donald
Trump to oval office? Despite what was being said about Russian
meddling in past elections, Allah is willing to providentially
penalise wrongdoers. Donald Trump is obviously rapscallion,
racialist, bigoted, unreliable, unconscionable, propagandist,
dishonourable, misanthrope, prurient, flamboyant, aweless and
dissembler. He won against his rivals with exercising fallacious
rhetoric. He abhorrently dissed each and everyone. He
despicably affronted politicians, journalists and public figures.
We heard his emphatically offensive remarks against many people.
This is why educated
Americans are so upset. They are taken aback of this
unpresidential character to be elected. This is the divine manner.
Allah says in the Koran
what could be meaningly rendered as namely. And when We would
destroy a township, We send commandment to its folk who live at
ease, and afterward they commit abomination therein, and so the
Word of doom hath effect for it,
and we annihilate it with complete annihilation. This is a
commentary based
translation of verse sixteen in chapter seventeen. This verse
matches your
election conclusion in unrivalled precision. Donald Trump is
enormously affluent and thence, he is eligible to lead a nation
that is based on capitalistic tenets. He is deficient of basic
adequacy to manage a nursery or a small shop. His character
matches what I call typical nescience in imbecility. What
arrogance does?
Arrogance makes its bearer blinded to see the truth. When you
speak disparagingly of other traditions, this is the beginning
of your end. America’s reputable status is on its edge to collapse.
You may respectfully disagree with other people. However, it
certainly becomes a problem when this disagreement turns into
unsolicited conflict. You may criticise others or even debate
their views on particular
issues. Withal, it is a trouble if you desperately demand to
intolerantly demonise others to relentlessly justify your
hostile stance. Why don’t you folks learn from Canada? Canada is
notably recognised for its distinctive factors of practically
promoting diversity and multiculturalism. What is multiculturalism in
Canada?
It is the doctrine that several different cultures rather than
one can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country.
So, you could commonly encounter bits and bobs of everything.
You don’t have to forcefully be painted with certain colour to
be welcomed there. This is the plain difference between Canada
and the States.
In the States, you have got to be Americanised in some form or
another to be accepted. This is what I call, the dominating
disease of racism.
Abraham Lincoln emancipated slaves but unfortunately, he treated
the symptom and disposed the disease. Slavery was the symptom
but racial disparity is actually the disease. I will always
repeat this assertion, racism has to be
portrayed as a deadly sinful act. Otherwise, change won’t occur
anytime soon. As for the recently aggrieved mass shooting of
Texas, controversial arguments about gun control rose again. Why
many members of the National Rifle Association act carelessly
about gun safety and regulation? Despite the recurrence of
fatal mass shootings in various places, American legislative
committees decline to significantly straighten the situation
out. People aren't safe at Churches, concerts, malls, medical
centres, campuses or school complex. Trump said in multiple
occasions that he take cares of all Americans. Subsequent to New
York's truck callous assault, he called for more intense
procedures and extremely enforced vetting to insure
potential terrorists aren't issued visas. However, he nearly
acted heedlessly concerning the massive shooting incident in Texas.
Isn't that a clear sign of double standard? This is the
relentless prob I have been encountering with your justice
system for consecutive decades. I knew for certain, many
sensible and just Americans aren't so pleased with what is
happening in their country.
Americans became numb to such incidents.
Terrorism in their minds is only affiliated with Muslims. They
aren't stringent in their assessment. This is why I am often
tempestuous with American set of standards. This disposal of
practicing double standard is immensely prevalent. Whenever a
white guy commits mass murder, he is incessantly labelled as
mentally imbalanced. However, if a Muslim committed
that crime, he would have been instantly classified as a dire
Muslim radical
and the incident would have been considered an act of terror.
The portrait is now clearer than ever before. The question is,
for how long will we lie to ourselves? It is distinctly plain
that we aren't equal in their minds to
the white citizen who happend to be born there. Despite their
insistence to
deny this conclusion, evidence for it are gigantically triumphal.
I do not destine to unfairly extrapolate. I just desire to seek
equatable justice. I
attentively followed a three hours live coverage of the incident
on Youtube.
I think it was published by ABC Radio. The show host spoke
reasonably and his remote guests were competently sane in their
discussion. That is one of
the reasons why I believe sensible Americans out there aren't
generically satisfied with the current situation. The problem
will firmly be fixed if we
redressed what is in my so humble opinion, a grave
misinterpretation of the
second amendment. I rendered my entailment on its essence
previously.
I won't ingeminate this for now. I did not take the literal
meaning of the text. I rather went deeper to the legal spirit of
the statute to properly derive consistent discernment. It needs
to be reviewed with further accuracy, accountability and
unprejudiced temperament. Thank you so much for
loyally reading this piece. I keenly look forward to hearing
from you.
Bob