[bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare books plus another question

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT)

In looking at an archaeology book I did a while back
(not too carefully, I confess), What you're choosing
to do is what I did--I wrote Illustrative Table and
left it at that.

G.Cindy

--- Devorah  Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yes, in the case of the book I'm doing I think the
> author just wanted to
> have tables for the sake of looking authoritative or
> something. They add
> nothing. G. Cindy was kind enough to send me an
> off-list email with good
> instructions about how to read through a table so
> that it makes sense in
> sentences. In the case of this book, however, I am
> making an editorial
> decision not to bother with the tables. As you said,
> Bob, they don't add
> a thing.
> 
> Devorah
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:31 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare
> books plus another
> question
> 
> I don't know what others might think, but I'd rather
> keep tables out of 
> books as much as possible. The only purpose I see
> for tables is to
> present 
> data in a tabular manner, such as calendars, charts
> etc. Even then, it
> looks 
> like the bookshare tools destroys them anyway.
> 
> Sometimes tables are used to make information stand
> out in a book. In 
> Braille and speech they don't stand out, they just
> look strange.
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> Bob
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:53 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables in Bookshare
> books plus another 
> question
> 
> 
> > Jake,
> >
> > If tabs aren't retained, how can we create tables
> as
> > tables? I'd love to know that. It would save a lot
> of
> > time.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> >
> > Devorah, I do what Mayrie suggested--I translate
> the
> > table into sentences, even to the point of
> repeating a
> > heading if necessary. IF I can find some examples
> I'll
> > send them to you offlist.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> > --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Devorah,
> >>
> >> Tables done with spaces will be somewhat
> >> "compressed" in that vertically nothing will
> align.
> >> Tabs are stripped from the files completely
> because
> >> DAISY as an XML standard doesn't understand a
> tab.
> >> Tables created as actual tables are converted to
> >> tables in DAISY.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jake
> >>
> >> Jake Brownell
> >> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
> >> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Devorah Greenstein
> >>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>   Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:04 PM
> >>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables in Bookshare
> >> books plus another question
> >>
> >>
> >>   What is the protocol for tables?
> >>   I've got quite a few in the book I'm validating
> -
> >> I'm using a library copy of the printed book
> because
> >> the scanned version is all goofed up, as I would
> >> expect. But what I'm doing is using tab stops and
> >> recreating a table in tabular form. Will this
> work
> >> for folks? If not, what should I be doing?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   She says, halfway through the book and hadn't
> >> thought of asking before now!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Also, I'm wondering what screen readers will do
> >> with this quote from an 18th century midwife. Can
> >> someone reassure me that it is decipherable?
> >>
> >>   17       F   At ditoes & Mr Poores. Birth 47th
> a
> >> daughter. At Capt Meloys allso
> >>
> >>   Rainy. I was Calld from Mr Parkers at 2 hour
> morn
> >> to Mr Poores. Doct Page was Calld before my
> arival.
> >> I Extracted the Child, a dagt. He Chose to Close
> the
> >> Loin. I returnd home at 8 hour morning. Receivd
> 6/
> >> as a reward. Mr Ballard & Ephm attend worship,
> Dolly
> >> & Sally aftern. Charls and John Coks supt here. I
> >> was calld to Capt meloys at 11 hour Evening.
> Raind.
> >> Birth Mr Poores daughter X X
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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