[bksvol-discuss] Re: stories have powerful effects
- From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:12:15 -0500
They're not going to change because of one story. If we're that hot-house, we
need keepers. If we don't want to be seen as being in need of protection, we
shouldn't over do this kind of thing.
Really unpleasant part ahead for the squeemish.
One friend of mine from Seeing Eye days once took his dog into a department
store which had revolving doors. The dog just wasn't having a great day. He
was probably sick from something and, well, let's just say it all came out
while they were going through the revolving door. Other people were behind my
friend. Wonderful image, and not the first time it's happened, since I Read
that story before my friend ever told me of his experience. Now, there's no
way that story won't be told. People always tell that kind of thing and
sometimes there's a spin of one kind and sometimes of another. The world has
Not ended because of those incidents and people aren't going to stop telling
them. Another case in point. Friends of mine have 4 kids, so they're used to
what that means. A nun came over for a reason I've forgotten by now. One of
the kids was in diapers. She loaded one after another of them up. Four times
in all. They tell the story on the nun, saying that she was giving them looks
like she was glad she wasn't going to be a mother anytime soon. People aren't
going to stop having kids because of this kind of thing. Give in to the
fishbowl atmosphere and we will be drowned in it is what I'm saying.
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Morales
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: stories have powerful effects
Maybe, for us, it's more like sneering at the owners, but for a sighted
person who doesn't know blind people and doesn't know anything about guide
dogs...well, that leaves a bad image in their minds about the dogs. It is their
owners, a lot of times, for sure, but we know that. We're familiar with the
training of guide dogs, and we're familiar with how the handlers are supposed
to handle their dogs, but a sighted person may not be, and that's the scenario
that worries most of us. We hit enough brick walls on our own without having to
worry about a well-intentioned funny anecdote and what kind of effect that
might have on someone. Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: stories have powerful effects
I think it's more a question of sneering at the owners.
----- Original Message -----
From: E.
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] stories have powerful effects
Cindy I assume you mean pass along the story of the guide dog who was so
disruptive because her person did not choose to control her. Pass it
along
if you must. I do notice that people tend to pass along stories of how
badly a dog, particularly a guide dog behaves with a lot of glee. I
think
it is one thing to pass along stories among ourselves. I do get
concerned
when sighted people gleefully pass along stories about how badly a guide
dog behaves, how poorly a guide dog is dealt with by his or her person
and
how a guide dog failed and did something wrong like run a light, run
their
person into something or whatever. Then sighted folks can use those
stories to be hesitant about renting to those of us with dogs, or letting
us into restaurants and so on. It may be illegal but all of us with dogs
have had issues of access at one time or another.
I know it is far from your intention to do this but be careful with
stoires. They can have powerful results many unintentional. I am sorry
if
this sounds harsh but I have had a number of instances when sighted
people
just had to come up to me and tell me about bad behavior or guide dogs or
their people.
I am therefore overly cautious about stories of incidents particularly
involving food.
By the way, I have been with Seeing Eye dogs for over thirty years and do
know those stoires from my own experience. But I would be careful
telling
them to restaurant owners or hotel operators or landlords, or cabbies,
bus
drivers and so forth. We still have barriers to access some of them
fueled
by lack of knowledge.
E.
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