Hi Bob, Oh, my. My very bad! You are right! I tested again and realized you are right. It only turns off all underlining if you are sitting on a segment of underlined text. I'm sorry! I didn't test well enough. What you say is true, if you select all, and toggle underlining when sitting on text that isn't underlined, the entire document will be underlined thereafter. However, you can undo this easily by repeating the process. I will test more carefully from now on. Thanks for catching my inaccuracy, and incomplete test. Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:49 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Hi Mayrie. If she wants to turn off underlining for the entire book and does a control+a, when she does the control+u what happens to the text that is not underlined? My thinking is that it will be underlined, or, if she isn't on a chunk of underlined text when she does this, the entire document might be underlined. Bob "A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain." ----- Original Message ----- From: Mayrie <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> ReNae To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Hi Chela, Did my other message answer this question? Probably, as I said selecting the entire document by pressing control+a, then turning off all underlining by pressing control+u,and saving the document should work. Again insert+f (the insert key on the numberpad) will tell you quickly if any of the text selected is underlined. But you have to select the text first, or it doesn't know what text you're talking about. Sorry, that was weirdly stated. Ask again if I've been clear as mud. Mayrie Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:43 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Oh yeah, one more thing, my braille display died and so I'm doing this all by speech feedback and JFW is not telling me what is and isn't underlined though bookshare told me that on page 30 after the line, "If I whimper," everything else is underlined and that that is a definite no no, don't know how it was so, because all I did was read and corrected a few misspelled words, I'm getting annoyed, but I know it has got to be done. Chela ----- Original Message ----- From: Mayrie <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> ReNae To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Hi Reggie and Sue, When JAWS is speaking, it says that it has moved to another page when passing over a soft page break. When it passes over a hard page break, it says "page break." What I suggest is to get rid of soft page breaks altogether by increasing your paper size to custom, making it 20 inches long or so. Then you never have to deal with the soft page breaks at all. I have seen books where the proofreader obviously got confused about which was which and put page numbers just after soft page breaks, mucking up the book. Just get rid of them, as I said, by increasing your paper size. That will make them disappear. Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:36 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Hi Reggie, The only way you know there is a soft page break is if there are extra blank lines. Jaws tells you when there are hard page breaks in Word, but not soft page breaks. Hope this helps, Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: Reggie <mailto:regandlon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> & Brooks To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks What is a soft page btreak. How does Jaws indicate this? Now doing all work in Word (yes got rid of my Pac Mate) so I need to know what pitfalls to be aware of in Word. I am using a Focus 40 besides Jaws. Any help from those using Word would be appreciated. Thanks. Reggie _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.19/2245 - Release Date: 07/18/09 05:57:00