[bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:34:55 -0700

Hi Rik,
 
I downloaded the book that you mention, and I'd like to know what daisy
reader you're using. I can navigate by heading in this book just fine.  It's
true that publisher quality books don't have page navigation, because, as
we've discussed before on this list, but maybe not since you've been back
with us, the electronic copies of books provided by the publishers to
bookshare don't have pages or page numbers in them.  This is because page
numbers and pages are only a function of printed books, determined by the
size of print on a page and the size of the paper used.  The publishers
choose these sizes and tell their printers what to do each time they want to
print a copy or batch of copies from these electronic copies of the books.
Please ask more if that part isn't clear.  
 
Other than that, I see heading navigation for each what appears to be a
story or chapter of the book using both the xml files, and Kurzweil 1000
version 12.04.
 
So, if you can tell us what daisy reader you're using, maybe we can help you
figure out why you don't see any daisy navigation in your book.
 
Mayrie
 
 

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Hi vols,
 
This text below is a copy of a message sent to bookshare technical support.
 
I am wondering about DAISY navigation in some of the new books in the
Bookshare collection.  
 
I was very pleased and excited to see a new book just added to the
collection.  It says on the page that it was done by Bookshare Staff.  So I
thought I would just contact Technical Support, to see if I could learn, or
to give my input.
 
Why do some books really have zero Daisy navigation?
This new book, that I just downloaded (Here Comes Trouble by Michael Moore),
really does not even have page navigation.  
 
After the preliminary permission text, there is a link in Level 1 to "Begin
Reading."  And the next time I try to go to the next navigation point, it
goes to "End of text."
 
There are numerous examples of this in other new additions. With the earlier
books it is understandable. But now? Really?
 
This is way short of what we are capable of, isn't it?
We have the potential for 3 levels of Daisy navigation in many instances
with the various recent devices available. And to be really providing
reading materials, we should be able to access them as much as possible with
sighted peers, to go to pages, chapters, and so on.
 
So, please, let's see about doing this with newly added content to our
Bookshare Collection.
 
Thank you.
Richard James
one of the volunteers, maember since I think 2004 or so.
d28rik@xxxxxxx

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