[bksvol-discuss] Re: getting worried about possibly disappearing books
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:36:02 -0700
Hi Jamie,
A book can get through submission and be rated excellent with the issues
that you describe, because the tool that marks quality pretty much only
checks spelling, and missing page breaks are only a problem once the book is
being added to the collection, or attempted to be added. This is so,
because a proofreader might fix those issues. Also, a tool has no idea how
many page breaks a book should have, so if it sees none, it just says to
itself, and you, "Okay, this book has 4 pages." And in fact the book may
originally have had say, 104 pages, but the tool has no way of knowing that.
And finally, on this point, hyphenated words that ought to be linked may be
few enough not to lower the excellent rating to good. I don't personally,
know how many improperly spelled words a book needs to have in proportion to
its total word count before the quality rating is lowered.
There are several ways to determine where paragraphs appropriately belong.
The absolutely most effective and accurate of these is to compare the rtf
file with a hard copy of the book. Paragraph marks that don't belong can be
deleted in at least 90 percent of instances by removing paragraph marks
which appear before lowercase letters. A good working knowledge of grammar
and punctuation is helpful in determining whether a paragraph mark is
missing, or added in where it shouldn't be, though it isn't fool proof, as
authors take many liberties with these things. And finally, often paragraph
marks are missing between lines of dialogue where there is no naration, but
just groups of words each surrounded by quotation marks. In this instance,
the proofreader needs to insert paragraph marks between speakers in a
dialogue.
Sorry if all that was way more than you wanted to know.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Prater
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:47 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: getting worried about possibly disappearing
books
Hi again, how did these books get through the submission process as
excellent with all the word breaks and no page breaks, and how do you
determine appropriate and inappropriate paragraph breaks?
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Castner <mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: getting worried about possibly disappearing
books
Hi, Jamie,
I rejected one of the books, and the errors were not at all minor. As I
recall, as well as no page breaks, the book had many broken words with
dashes in the middle and many inappropriate paragraph breaks.
I'm letting you know this because as I recall you felt that your experience
level made it difficult for you to proofread the book. Your experience
level was not at all the problem.
I seldom reject books and will make a concerted effort to correct errors.
However, in this case, I knew that a rescan would take less time than
correcting all the problems and determining many of the page breaks would be
guess work at best. I realized clearly why rejections sometimes have to
occur.
I hope the scanner will ask for assistance.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: getting worried about possibly disappearing
books
Hi Jamie,
One of the books by Yeomans was rejected because there were no page breaks.
A rescan was requested. Another Yeomans book was rejected because every line
was its own paragraph. A rescan was requested. The third was rejected
because it was a duplicate of the first book. The person has also submitted
books that start with Chapter 1 and are missing all front matter. We've
suggested reading the online manual, or getting a scanning mentor, but as
far as I know, the submitter hasn't contacted any of us for help or
clarification about what's required for a book to be submitted. Not much
else we can do!
Carrie
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From: Jamie Prater <jdprater@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 10:51:08 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] getting worried about possibly disappearing books
Hi, all, I posted a message on the vookshare volunteer list last night.
Several weeks ago, somebody graciously submitted three books by Lilian B.
Yeomans, M.D., and one book by Lester Sumrall that I wanted to do but
couldn't because of minor formatting issues and pagination problems--needed
minor page number help but I'm not skilled in this and had to release all
four books. I thought one person had downloaded some of them, but now, I
cannot find them anywhere on the site. They're not in the
proofread/checkout list anywhere; they are not on the in process or the
awaiting approval list or the books in process list. Could a book just
disappear or did someone take them off the site for some reason? Nobody so
far has been able to help me find the books so I could check on their
progress. As far as words go, they were clean scans, they just needed
slightly more format help and pagination changes than I feel capable of. I
really wanted these books in the collection and am starting to get worried
as to what's happened to them. Thanks for any help and have a blessed day.
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