[bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
- From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:16:00 -0700
I tried to find an old e-mail on this issue, but must have erased it.
As I recall, the manual is incorrect regarding ellipses. In order for them to
appear correctly in braille, an ellipsis in the middle of a sentence (between
words) should have a space before and after it; in other words, an ellipsis
between words is treated as a word.
What confuses me now though is how an ellipsis appears at the beginning or end
of a sentence. I thought that when an ellipsis appeared at the beginning of a
sentnece there was no space between the ellipsis and the word that follows it.
I thought that when an ellipsis appeared at the end of a sentence that there
was not a space between the final word of the sentence and the ellipsis. From
what Mayrie says, I am incorrect.
I wish the manual would be corrected and state clearly how we are to deal with
ellipses.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Kes, I was surprised, too. I've been replacing ellipses with spaces
between and before and after them with ellipses with no spaces at all.
Hopefully someone will clear this up for both of us. I'd like to do whatever is
best for both Braille readers and people who listen to their books (is that
Daisy readers?)
Cindy
--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 7:08 AM
So there is supposed to be a space before and after the ellipsis? I
could swear that I read in the volunteer scanning documentation that all spaces
were supposed to be eliminated. Perhaps I misunderstood what was meant by "all"?
Kestrell
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Thanks, Valerie;
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more
questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 9:33 PM
There is another quirky arrow (not just a straight line),
called an optional hyphen, and those you DO delete. Maybe those are what you
are thinking of or have seen, Cindy. I would be interested in learning how it
is identified in Braille or by speech.
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Cindy wrote:
I never knew what those little arows were; I
though maybe paragraph symbols so I just deleted them, and there didn't seem to
be any problem with wha remained.
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples
<vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing
now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:08 PM
I am thinking the right pointing error is a tab,
and would be replaced by a space unless you want your material formatted as a
table, then it can be used for creation of a table.
If you are in Word and not wanting to make a
table, do a find and replace by putting ^t in the first box and a single space
in the second.
HTH!
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT
wrote:
The right pointing arrows are something you
need to eliminate. In word you just replace all of the ^l with a space, unless
it's truly where a paragraph ends then you replace it with ^p.
But usually it's a temporary line break so that
it looks like the print book, but is very annoying in braille and needs to be
eliminated.
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