[bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:33:46 -0700
Hi Julie,
The manual has obviously not been corrected, or the later version of the
braille transcription manual reads differently. I'll have to download that
and see what it says. However, let's please surround them with spaces for
now.
I'll do my best to look up the exact wording of the most recent version of
the braille transcription manual which is our bible on this subject and I'll
get back to the list by the end of the upcoming week. I apologize if I have
been inaccurate, and will get a definitive answer by Friday, 5-27-11.
Mayrie
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:20 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Here's what I just copies from the online manual, for proofing:
1) Replace each "ellipsis character" with 3 periods
First go to the very beginning of the document by doing a:
Control + Home
To bring up the Find and Replace dialog, do a:
Control + h
In the Find box, type:
^0133
(That is: a caret, then the 4 digits.
"^0133" is the code for an ellipsis in Word.)
In the Replace box, type:
...
(That is: exactly 3 periods)
Click Replace All
2) No spaces before nor within ellipses
If the following are not done, ellipses will not be represented
properly in Braille:
A. Make sure there are no spaces before the 3 periods.
Not this:
Eventually ... the cows came home.
Instead, do this:
Eventually... the cows came home.
B. Make sure there are no spaces between the 3 periods.
Not this (a space between the 1st and 2nd periods):
Eventually. .. the cows came home.
Nor this (a space between the 2nd and 3rd periods):
Eventually.. . the cows came home.
Instead, do this:
Eventually... the cows came home.
Julie
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From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Kes, I was surprised, too. I've been replacing ellipses with spaces between
and before and after them with ellipses with no spaces at all. Hopefully
someone will clear this up for both of us. I'd like to do whatever is best
for both Braille readers and people who listen to their books (is that Daisy
readers?)
Cindy
--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Kestrell <kestrell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 7:08 AM
So there is supposed to be a space before and after the ellipsis? I could
swear that I read in the volunteer scanning documentation that all spaces
were supposed to be eliminated. Perhaps I misunderstood what was meant by
"all"?
Kestrell
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
Thanks, Valerie;
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 9:33 PM
There is another quirky arrow (not just a straight line), called an optional
hyphen, and those you DO delete. Maybe those are what you are thinking of
or have seen, Cindy. I would be interested in learning how it is identified
in Braille or by speech.
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Cindy wrote:
I never knew what those little arows were; I though maybe paragraph symbols
so I just deleted them, and there didn't seem to be any problem with wha
remained.
Cindy
--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: did Mayrie's thing now more questions
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:08 PM
I am thinking the right pointing error is a tab, and would be replaced by a
space unless you want your material formatted as a table, then it can be
used for creation of a table.
If you are in Word and not wanting to make a table, do a find and replace by
putting ^t in the first box and a single space in the second.
HTH!
Valerie
On May 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote:
The right pointing arrows are something you need to eliminate. In word you
just replace all of the ^l with a space, unless it's truly where a paragraph
ends then you replace it with ^p.
But usually it's a temporary line break so that it looks like the print
book, but is very annoying in braille and needs to be eliminated.
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