[bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?
- From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:13:08 -0500
I agree, Sue, Nichole finds many problems even in out-sourced books, but I
think there is a presumption within sub-contractors/out-sourcers, that the same
person is handling it both times, but I think it is more like an agency where
on the collection copy an individual is not identified, but the group, so it
may well indeed be two people.
Two pairs of eyes never hurts and usually is essential to the best quality
possible.
Valerie
On Aug 13, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Sue Stevens wrote:
> I see your point here, Roger, and there are errors in some of the
> subcontractor submissions. I am not being critical here, but it is a fact.
>
> S.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:33 AM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?
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> Actually, I kind of dislike the term deranged perfectionist. It seems to me
> to be a contradiction in terms. Putting that aside, though, I do wonder
> about the justification for the policy that people who are under contract
> with Bookshare can proofread their own submissions. I don't know anything
> about how one gets such a contract, but I would suppose that they must show
> some kind of evidence that they are good at what they are doing. However, it
> seems to me that the same arguments would apply to them that apply to
> volunteers. Just because one has signed a contract does not mean that they
> have reached a state of perfection. Even the best proofreader can still miss
> something that someone else might catch. Even the best submitter has a
> vested interest in their own work.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Syfert" <goodproofing2010@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:48 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?
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>
> Deranged perfectionist? Who's deranged? You better believe it!! (evil
> smile).
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:13 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?
>
>
> Message
> Hi,
> Jamie's right. I remember proofreading a book and running it through the
> spell-checker before sending it up for approval and was startled to find
> that I
> needed to add some spaces to the book or something like that. Due to the
> Braille
> display not being recognized, I hadn't been aware of how the line looked
> based
> on what I heard. I can see why Bookshare insists on two people overseeing
> the
> processing of the file, one to submit and one to proofread. And if you have
> two
> deranged perfectionists on a given project, submitter and proofreader, then
> that
> book will be as near perfect as we can make it, barring stupid things like
> typographical errors or missing words left out by the publisher. Regards,
> Kim
> Friedman.
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Yates, CPhT
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011
> 10:08 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?
>
> It's true that if you scan the
> book you have the book to proofread with, but I think, in the beginning,
> there
> were very few sighted volunteers for Bookshare. So a person without sight
> couldn't really compare it with the print book, right?
>
> And then, too,
> it's always good to have a second pair of eyes (um, or fingers or ears,
> sorry!)
> to look something over. I am in general a pretty careful scanner but I have
> several times submitted a book that was missing pages and it's my custom to
> page
> down through the file counting page numbers to make sure they are all there.
> I
> even once submitted a book that had a chunk of pages twice.
>
> It's like
> when you read a book that has errors in the print--your eyes see what they
> want
> to see and not what is really there. So sometimes you don't even see the
> mistakes.
>
> And of course there are scanners (like me) who don't read every
> word of what they scan, and there are proofreaders who don't read every word
> of
> what they proof. So two sets of eyes on the job are better than
> one.
>
>
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