I was under the impression that Fair was the default rating, and that submitter and/or validator should change it if they'd worked on the book and it was Good or Excellent. If the submitter left the rating as Fair figuring that the validator would correct it after validation, when maybe in fact the true rating should be higher than Fair, then books would be rejected that actually have a higher quality. Cindy --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Evan, > > You may make some good points, but keep in mind, > your ideas were expressed > with the idea that the submitter gets information > back from the automated > rater, which they do not, only validators see those > numbers. > > And, since some volunteers are fond of fixing up bad > books into Excellent > ones, if the submitter sees it is excellent, but > doesn't check the file, > they may not realize that it has totally changed. > Therefore they think their > original submission was excellent when it may have > been poor. Hey, this > sounds like a great argument as to why poor books > should be rejected without > crying over them. > > Jake > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:56 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Text Files > > > > What is the definition of poor quality? I agree > with you that we need to > > up the standard, but the first indication of book > quality submitters get > > is from the automated system. No one answered my > question as to how books > > are rated by the automated system. Those numbers > have to be known, since > > they had to be programmed in there in the first > place. Whatever those > > category assignment cutoffs are, perhaps they need > to be notched up a bit > > so that submitters get a more accurate rating of > low-quality books. But > > that notching up will have to go through some kind > of process I imagine to > > decide what percentage of accuracy constitutes > Excellent, what counts as > > Good, etc. Clearly, those cutoffs are too low at > present. How bad does a > > book have to be before it is considered > unacceptable by the automated > > system? Is there even a contingency for such > books? > > > > Obviously, you and I know poor quality when we see > it, but if submitters > > get a Fair or even Good rating on submissions, and > those ratings are not > > changed, then they will continue to submit books > that they may very well > > think are at least Fair and perhaps even good. If > you are the kind of > > person who is blasï¿½ about scan quality, but when > you submit a book it gets > > a rating by that system of Fair or even Good, why > would you quit doing it? > > It is certainly possible that some people are > knowingly submitting junk, > > but I would venture to guess that there are many > who think they are doing > > a good job when they are in fact not because the > only feedback they get is > > from the automated rating system. They don't > interact with validators, > > and so may not know what kinds of problems they > need to work on. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:04 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Text Files > > > > > >> At the same time txt files are eliminated could > we also eliminate taking > >> books of poor quality? I really think it sends > the wrong message to > >> those who submit books, to the poor validators > and to loyal members who > >> pay money to subscribe. We degrade the quality > of the whole operation > >> truly. > >> > >> E. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. To get a list > >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by > itself in the subject line. > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. 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