Hi, I have to disagree with the rank spelling being used as a bottom line. I have scanned books that have a rank spelling of 96 or 97 when I have finished scanning. After going through rank spelling and having it ignore all the proper names I have been able to get it up over 99 percent. I have also seen the validating tool rate a book higher than my rank spelling gave it. I am fully supportive of the highest quality books but to promote the fact that 96 is not acceptable is very much a two edged sward and gives new validators the impression that this is required. Also if full read throughs are going to be what it takes to get the excellence that can be had then the 50 cents is not worth it and that incentive needs to be looked at. The other way to go with this would be that scanners need to semi validate the book as a required guideline. Taking the time it takes for the average scanner, using a flat bed, which I would imagine can take a few hours or more, expecting a validator to read a complete book the compensation should be the same. That also means that a read through of the book needs to be added to the official guidelines for validating. Then taking into account what is suggested as a minimum time a validator puts in a month, I believe is about 2 hours, then a complete read through of an average book will take longer than this. I have been taking a couple of days a month to scan books in and on a good day I can get 6 to 8 books scanned. If it is a book I am interested in I don't feel bad taking longer than a week or so to read the book and make all the corrections overly long. I appreciate the direction E you are pushing to take the BookShare site but I have found some of the statements coming across as guidelines more than suggestions. In stating where the site can go it would be helpful to balance the ideal excellence with what are the current guidelines for validators. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:07 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Social Bodies A book one scans for oneself may not necessarily as originally scanned be qualified for bookshare. However, if you think the book you scanned has political merit and if you own a copy of k1000 which this submitter does it is possible to clean up your text at least by using autocorrect and certainly by using rank spelling. All I am suggesting is that much improvement by a submitter is possible on a book, the same kind of work we validators do for fifty cents and the submitter does for $2.50. Presumably, submitting is done because the submitters think asomeone else would like to read the book or that the book is one a larger audience than an audience of one blind person might want to read. I applaud this willingness to share. I am not willing to do the work on books which come in consistently with 96 and 97% ratings no matter how politically or socially important they are. Perhaps others want to take these projects on but I suggest that bookshare needs a bottom to what is acceptable to prevent submitters from submitting things with extremely poor ratings. No let's not get on to where that floor should be. But perhaps we need to speak frankly on this list about books whose rating is 96 or 97^% and which continue to clutter up the step 1 page. This is not personal to any submitter but really we do need to say these things out loud unless the list is just to grow randomly. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.