[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:37:52 -0800 (PST)
I did, many years ago, for a while. In order to get a
permit for it we had to take a class. I don't remember
why it was advised and was very popular. I haven't
heard of anybody doing it in a long time. Maybe it was
just a way of making money--or maybe it was after the
Watts riots, or when there was a a lot of "stuff"
going on in L.A.
Cindy
--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The walking with confidence I already do. As to
> keys, I don't do this all
> the time, but certainly when I'm coming home late,
> I do.
>
> I've also thought about carrying mace, but have
> never gotten around to it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:42 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense
>
> A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs
> like 60 minutes, they had a
> section on how to avoid being attacked, and that was
> one of the things to
> they stressed, especially for elderly or women--to
> walk confidently and with
> an air of self-assureance -- and hold your keys in
> your hand with one key
> between two fingers pointed outward, so you can jab
> someone in the eyes if
> necessary.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
> The joke about well trained
> > akaido folks is that the
> > energy they give off and the confident way they
> move means they get
> > messed with less.
> >
> > E.
> > At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > >I did take a women's self-defense class while
> > living in San Francisco years
> > >ago, but I don't remember a thing. I've thought
> > about pursuing aikido, and
> > >had even found an instructor willing to teach me,
> > but then I moved to
> > >Denver. I haven't pursued that particular
> interest
> > since.
> > >
> > >I'd love to know if you find any good
> descriptions.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > >Burton
> > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> > People
> > >
> > >There are a few self defense moves which do not
> > come across as "shoving him
> > >away". He would never notice anything except that
> > somehow he was no longer
> > >connected to your arm or hand. I learned them in
> > akaido.
> > >
> > >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it to
> > come across correctly. I
> > >will find out if descriptions exist in
> self-defense
> > journals or something if
> > >I can.
> > >
> > >E.
> > >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > >What you say is true. Regrettably, we live in
> a
> > dangerous world. If I'd
> > > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away,
> > which could be
> > > >dangerous for him in the middle of an
> > intersection.
> > > >
> > > >I also think you're right about more physical
> > contact. A new
> > > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> > restaurant (a courtesy I
> > > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend to
> go
> > to seem to have lots
> > > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand in
> > his to guide. I pulled
> > > >my hand back and took his arm. I wouldn't have
> > minded flirting with
> > > >him, but he's married, and so even holding
> hands
> > seems off limits to
> > > >me. Maybe that's an entirely different
> subject,
> > though.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > >Burton
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful
> > People
> > > >
> > > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a
> woman
> > without asking first
> > > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous
> experience
> > for the person being
> > > >grabbed. I understand the need to help. I
> will
> > stress in the book
> > > >what we all know and have been trying to stress
> > and will use humor to
> > > >do it. The human being is equipped with a
> mouth
> > and the ability to use
> > > >it. Please let's learn the following phrases.
> > Repeat after me children:
> > > >"May I pet your dog."
> > > >"Do you need help."
> > > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are
> > you all right?"
> > > >
> > > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am
> worried
> > about you. Do you
> > > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other
> > question is "I have
> > > >nobody to help and here is a person I can
> help."
> > I do not like this
> > > >attitude much since I dislike being an object
> > attracting folks who feel
> > > >so non-needed and attracting them for their
> needs
> > not my help By the
> > > >way, you can tell that kind. Those are the
> ones
> > who keep insisting and
> > > >hang on after you have said you do not need
> help.
> > > >
> > > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men
> who
> > physically grab blind
> > > >women for the same reason they would like to
> grab
> > or touch a woman or
> > > >any kind. You can tell this kind because he is
> > the one who tries to
> > > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his
> arm
> > to cross a street.
> > > >
> > > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be
> > at least a bit
> > > >concerned about somebody grabbing them
> > particularly in situations where
> > > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or such.
>
> > The fact is many of
> > > >that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > > >
> > > >I also think women who are blind get physically
> > contacted more than do
> > > >blind men. Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times
> > article about it a few years
> > >ago.
> > > >I will do my best to get ahold of it. I want
> AFB
> > in on the book
> > > >project in some way, by the way.
> > > >
> > > >This thing really might take off.
> > > >
> > > >E.
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