[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
- From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 06:12:24 -0700
When I was sixteen, and traveling with my first dog in San Francisco and
Berkeley, I used to carry a pair of brass knuckles with a knife attached. I
only had to open the blade once, but that was a very scary night.
That's when I took my one and only self-defense class.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Riddle
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:09 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
When I was living on the streets, I had at least 6 knives on my person. I
had 1 on my belt, 1 in each boot, one in my jacket pocket, one up under my
armpit and another strapped to my inner wrist in a spring clutch.. Now that
I'm not carrying everything I own on my back, I went back down to 2 blades,
on my belt and in my belt pack. I've only had to use a blade once, and I
won't go into that here. I take protection very seriously and was trained in
the martial arts and wrestling. I refuse to use force unless it's absolutely
necessary, which, as I said, has only happened once. Word gets around on the
streets and I guess the guy I met spread the word around that you don't f&&&
with the blind guy over on this side of town.
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From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:01 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
> The walking with confidence I already do. As to keys, I don't do this
> all the time, but certainly when I'm coming home late, I do.
>
> I've also thought about carrying mace, but have never gotten around to it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grandma
> Cindy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:42 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense
>
> A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs like 60 minutes, they
> had
a
> section on how to avoid being attacked, and that was one of the things
> to they stressed, especially for elderly or women--to walk confidently
> and
with
> an air of self-assureance -- and hold your keys in your hand with one
> key between two fingers pointed outward, so you can jab someone in the
> eyes if necessary.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
> The joke about well trained
> > akaido folks is that the
> > energy they give off and the confident way they move means they get
> > messed with less.
> >
> > E.
> > At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > >I did take a women's self-defense class while
> > living in San Francisco years
> > >ago, but I don't remember a thing. I've thought
> > about pursuing aikido, and
> > >had even found an instructor willing to teach me,
> > but then I moved to
> > >Denver. I haven't pursued that particular interest
> > since.
> > >
> > >I'd love to know if you find any good descriptions.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > >Burton
> > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> > People
> > >
> > >There are a few self defense moves which do not
> > come across as "shoving him
> > >away". He would never notice anything except that
> > somehow he was no longer
> > >connected to your arm or hand. I learned them in
> > akaido.
> > >
> > >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it to
> > come across correctly. I
> > >will find out if descriptions exist in self-defense
> > journals or something if
> > >I can.
> > >
> > >E.
> > >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > >What you say is true. Regrettably, we live in a
> > dangerous world. If I'd
> > > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away,
> > which could be
> > > >dangerous for him in the middle of an
> > intersection.
> > > >
> > > >I also think you're right about more physical
> > contact. A new
> > > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> > restaurant (a courtesy I
> > > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend to go
> > to seem to have lots
> > > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand in
> > his to guide. I pulled
> > > >my hand back and took his arm. I wouldn't have
> > minded flirting with
> > > >him, but he's married, and so even holding hands
> > seems off limits to
> > > >me. Maybe that's an entirely different subject,
> > though.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > >Burton
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> > People
> > > >
> > > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a woman
> > without asking first
> > > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous experience
> > for the person being
> > > >grabbed. I understand the need to help. I will
> > stress in the book
> > > >what we all know and have been trying to stress
> > and will use humor to
> > > >do it. The human being is equipped with a mouth
> > and the ability to use
> > > >it. Please let's learn the following phrases.
> > Repeat after me children:
> > > >"May I pet your dog."
> > > >"Do you need help."
> > > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are
> > you all right?"
> > > >
> > > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am worried
> > about you. Do you
> > > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other
> > question is "I have
> > > >nobody to help and here is a person I can help."
> > I do not like this
> > > >attitude much since I dislike being an object
> > attracting folks who feel
> > > >so non-needed and attracting them for their needs
> > not my help By the
> > > >way, you can tell that kind. Those are the ones
> > who keep insisting and
> > > >hang on after you have said you do not need help.
> > > >
> > > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men who
> > physically grab blind
> > > >women for the same reason they would like to grab
> > or touch a woman or
> > > >any kind. You can tell this kind because he is
> > the one who tries to
> > > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his arm
> > to cross a street.
> > > >
> > > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be
> > at least a bit
> > > >concerned about somebody grabbing them
> > particularly in situations where
> > > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or such.
> > The fact is many of
> > > >that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > > >
> > > >I also think women who are blind get physically
> > contacted more than do
> > > >blind men. Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times
> > article about it a few years
> > >ago.
> > > >I will do my best to get ahold of it. I want AFB
> > in on the book
> > > >project in some way, by the way.
> > > >
> > > >This thing really might take off.
> > > >
> > > >E.
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