[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:04:50 -0800 (PST)

Wow! Robert, it sounds as if you could write a book of
your own. May I ask, where do you live now, and how
did you get off the streets? And onto to them, for
that matter. Your life story sounds as if it would be
very interesting.

Cindy

--- Robert Riddle <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> When I was living on the streets, I had  at least 6
> knives on my person. I
> had 1 on my belt, 1 in each boot, one in my jacket
> pocket, one up under my
> armpit and another strapped to my inner wrist in a
> spring clutch.. Now that
> I'm not carrying everything I own on my back, I went
> back down to 2 blades,
> on my belt and in my belt pack. I've only had to use
> a blade once, and I
> won't go into that here. I take protection very
> seriously and was trained in
> the martial arts and wrestling. I refuse to use
> force unless it's absolutely
> necessary, which, as I said, has only happened once.
> Word gets around on the
> streets and I guess the guy I met spread the word
> around that you don't f&&&
> with the blind guy over on this side of town.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:01 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: self-defense
> 
> 
> > The walking with confidence I already do.  As to
> keys, I don't do this all
> > the time, but certainly when I'm  coming home
> late, I do.
> >
> > I've also thought about carrying mace, but have
> never gotten around to it.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:42 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense
> >
> > A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs
> like 60 minutes, they had
> a
> > section on how to avoid being attacked, and that
> was one of the things to
> > they stressed, especially for elderly or women--to
> walk confidently and
> with
> > an air of self-assureance -- and hold your keys in
> your hand with one key
> > between two fingers pointed outward, so you can
> jab someone in the eyes if
> > necessary.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The joke about well trained
> > > akaido folks is that the
> > > energy they give off and the confident way they
> move means they get
> > > messed with less.
> > >
> > > E.
> > > At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > >I did take a women's self-defense class while
> > > living in San Francisco years
> > > >ago, but I don't remember a thing.  I've
> thought
> > > about pursuing aikido, and
> > > >had even found an instructor willing to teach
> me,
> > > but then I moved to
> > > >Denver.  I haven't pursued that particular
> interest
> > > since.
> > > >
> > > >I'd love to know if you find any good
> descriptions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > >Burton
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful
> > > People
> > > >
> > > >There are a few self defense moves which do not
> > > come across as "shoving him
> > > >away". He would never notice anything except
> that
> > > somehow he was no longer
> > > >connected to your arm or hand.  I learned them
> in
> > > akaido.
> > > >
> > > >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it
> to
> > > come across correctly.  I
> > > >will find out if descriptions exist in
> self-defense
> > > journals or something if
> > > >I can.
> > > >
> > > >E.
> > > >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >What you say is true.  Regrettably, we live
> in a
> > > dangerous world.   If I'd
> > > > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him
> away,
> > > which could be
> > > > >dangerous for him in the middle of an
> > > intersection.
> > > > >
> > > > >I also think you're right about more physical
> > > contact.  A new
> > > > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> > > restaurant (a courtesy I
> > > > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend
> to go
> > > to seem to have lots
> > > > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand
> in
> > > his to guide.  I pulled
> > > > >my hand back and took his arm.  I wouldn't
> have
> > > minded flirting with
> > > > >him, but he's married, and so even holding
> hands
> > > seems off limits to
> > > > >me.  Maybe that's an entirely different
> subject,
> > > though.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > > > >Burton
> > > > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful
> > > People
> > > > >
> > > > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a
> woman
> > > without asking first
> > > > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous
> experience
> > > for the person being
> > > > >grabbed.  I understand the need to help.  I
> will
> > > stress in the book
> > > > >what we all know and have been trying to
> stress
> > > and will use humor to
> > > > >do it.  The human being is equipped with a
> mouth
> > > and the ability to use
> > > > >it.  Please let's learn the following
> phrases.
> > > Repeat after me children:
> > > > >"May I pet your dog."
> > > > >"Do you need help."
> > > > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include
> "Are
> > > you all right?"
> > > > >
> > > > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am
> worried
> > > about you.  Do you
> > > > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the
> other
> > > question is "I have
> > > > >nobody to help and here is a person I can
> help."
> > > I do not like this
> > > > >attitude much since I dislike being an object
> > > attracting folks who feel
> > > > >so non-needed and attracting them for their
> needs
> > > not my help By the
> > > > >way, you can tell that kind.  Those are the
> ones
> > > who keep insisting and
> > > > >hang on after you have said you do not need
> help.
> > > > >
> > > > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men
> who
> > > physically grab blind
> > > > >women for the same reason they would like to
> grab
> > > or touch a woman or
> > > > >any kind.  You can tell this kind because he
> is
> > > the one who tries to
> > > > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his
> arm
> > > to cross a street.
> > > > >
> > > > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to
> be
> > > at least a bit
> > > > >concerned about somebody grabbing them
> > > particularly in situations where
> > > > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or
> such.
> > > The fact is many of
> > > > >that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > > > >
> > > > >I also think women who are blind get
> physically
> > > contacted more than do
> > > > >blind men.  Somebody from AFB wrote a NY
> Times
> > > article about it a few years
> > > >ago.
> > > > >I will do my best to get ahold of it.  I want
> AFB
> > > in on the book
> > > > >project in some way, by the way.
> > > > >
> > > > >This thing really might take off.
> > > > >
> > > > >E.
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