[bksvol-discuss] OT: self-defense

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:41:59 -0800 (PST)

A long time ago, on one of the magazine programs like
60 minutes, they had a section on how to avoid being
attacked, and that was one of the things to they
stressed, especially for elderly or women--to walk
confidently and with an air of self-assureance -- and
hold your keys in your hand with one key between two
fingers pointed outward, so you can jab someone in the
eyes if necessary.

Cindy




The joke about well trained
> akaido folks is that the 
> energy they give off and the confident way they move
> means they get messed 
> with less.
> 
> E.
> At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> >I did take a women's self-defense class while
> living in San Francisco years
> >ago, but I don't remember a thing.  I've thought
> about pursuing aikido, and
> >had even found an instructor willing to teach me,
> but then I moved to
> >Denver.  I haven't pursued that particular interest
> since.
> >
> >I'd love to know if you find any good descriptions.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> >Burton
> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> People
> >
> >There are a few self defense moves which do not
> come across as "shoving him
> >away". He would never notice anything except that
> somehow he was no longer
> >connected to your arm or hand.  I learned them in
> akaido.
> >
> >I cannot describe them verbally enough for it to
> come across correctly.  I
> >will find out if descriptions exist in self-defense
> journals or something if
> >I can.
> >
> >E.
> >At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > >What you say is true.  Regrettably, we live in a
> dangerous world.   If I'd
> > >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away,
> which could be
> > >dangerous for him in the middle of an
> intersection.
> > >
> > >I also think you're right about more physical
> contact.  A new
> > >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> restaurant (a courtesy I
> > >will accept, because the restaurants I tend to go
> to seem to have lots
> > >of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand in
> his to guide.  I pulled
> > >my hand back and took his arm.  I wouldn't have
> minded flirting with
> > >him, but he's married, and so even holding hands
> seems off limits to
> > >me.  Maybe that's an entirely different subject,
> though.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > >Burton
> > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> People
> > >
> > >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a woman
> without asking first
> > >is a stressful and possibly dangerous experience
> for the person being
> > >grabbed.  I understand the need to help.  I will
> stress in the book
> > >what we all know and have been trying to stress
> and will use humor to
> > >do it.  The human being is equipped with a mouth
> and the ability to use
> > >it.  Please let's learn the following phrases. 
> Repeat after me children:
> > >"May I pet your dog."
> > >"Do you need help."
> > >alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are
> you all right?"
> > >
> > >The implicit thing often thought is "I am worried
> about you.  Do you
> > >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other
> question is "I have
> > >nobody to help and here is a person I can help." 
> I do not like this
> > >attitude much since I dislike being an object
> attracting folks who feel
> > >so non-needed and attracting them for their needs
> not my help By the
> > >way, you can tell that kind.  Those are the ones
> who keep insisting and
> > >hang on after you have said you do not need help.
> > >
> > >On a more ominous note, I think there are men who
> physically grab blind
> > >women for the same reason they would like to grab
> or touch a woman or
> > >any kind.  You can tell this kind because he is
> the one who tries to
> > >cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his arm
> to cross a street.
> > >
> > >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be
> at least a bit
> > >concerned about somebody grabbing them
> particularly in situations where
> > >he might be trying to pick your pocket or such. 
> The fact is many of
> > >that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > >
> > >I also think women who are blind get physically
> contacted more than do
> > >blind men.  Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times
> article about it a few years
> >ago.
> > >I will do my best to get ahold of it.  I want AFB
> in on the book
> > >project in some way, by the way.
> > >
> > >This thing really might take off.
> > >
> > >E.
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