I tend to proof with speech, because even though I have a braile note, it doesn't work with the book in kurzweil which really helps with proofing. I'm too slow when reading braille besides.
If you are really used to a synthesizer you can tell what the punctuation is like even without all punctuation turned on. I don't think it is as easy to proof with speech when using some of the newer real concatenated speech engines. I have only learned to proof with eloquence and keynote. I also check for the few small things that might not be obvious with speech. Spaces around dashes for instance. I usually search for junk characters and quotes with spaces around them at the same time I fix em-dash and ellipsis issues. Most improper punctuation is immediately obvious, and I think I actually catch small errors in words much better with speech than do proof readers that do it by sight. I'm sure you've heard about the little weirdness of people's brains that make them see the correct word if the beginning and end of it are alright. :-) From the junk I notice in things my synthesizer reads to me, I know very well that it is true that sight isn't always better for proofreading. I know braille readers can catch things just as well, though. I turn on a feature of kurzweil that makes a little tiny sound when there is a new paragraph character, so I know if improper or missing newlines are an issue in the book.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://curiousnetentity.com On 5/7/2010 6:06 PM, Andromache wrote:
Yes, the symbols for the fractions do not show up well at all on a display. Neither do bullets.AndromacheP.S. How do those with no Braille display do proofing? Set the screen reader to all punctuation? I prefer Braille, because I like tactile feedback and much prefer to see words than to be read to. Also helps to keep my spelling skills sharp. But I find that all punctuation is a very distracting way to read.On 5/7/2010 5:35 AM, Debby Franson wrote:Hi Jill and everyone!Whenever I have submitted a cookbook, I have made sure all fractions are correct. I have wondered how accurate other Bookshare cookbooks were until joining this list when I have found that many volunteers take care to correct the scanos, since fractions are usually horrible for OCR to get right.The first cookbook I downloaded years ago was "The I Hate to Cook" cookbook. The fractions were not written as 1/2 and 1/4 but the higher ASCII characters for those fractions, so, unless I was left' or right-arrowing over those fractions, Window-Eyes ignored them entirely, so I hope that people always use the 1/2 and 1/4 form of the fractions so they are read rather than ignored by synthetic speech.. I suspect those higher ASCII characters don't show up well on a braille display either. Am I right? Here they are to test:¼ ½ Debby At 09:46 PM 5/6/2010, Jill O'Connell wroteI hope you sent your suggestion to the volunteer coordinator where it might possibly do some good. It is really disappointing to download a recipe book and find it virtually unreadable.----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>Melissa Smith To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Credit SuggestionIf only the outsourcers did as fine a job as many of the scanners and proofers on this list. I don't know how many books I've read, that were done by the outsourcers, that were poorly done. I do make quality reports when warranted. Not to mention the fact that, I was told a few months ago by Bookshare staff, that the outsourcers wouldn't be working on any more cookbooks.Melissa Smith On 5/6/2010 5:31 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote:One idea is to let the more complicated books be handled by staff/outsourcers.-- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: The BoneMan's Daughters by Ted DekkerEarn cash for answering trivia questions every 3 hours: <http://instantcashsweepstakes.com/invitations/ref_link/49497>http://instantcashsweepstakes.com/invitations/ref_link/49497See everything I've read this year at: <http://www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html>www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html---------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2858 - Release Date: 05/06/10 18:26:00No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2858 - Release Date: 05/06/10 13:26:00-- mailto:<the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> --Enjoy what you have rather than desiring what you don't have. Just dreaming about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the wind.--Ecclesiastes 6:9 NLTTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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