[bksvol-discuss] Re: All quotes are now question marks in 2 books approved by Bookshare
- From: Chris Fleming <wellbeing@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:42:40 -0600
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for responding so quickly.
Here is a section from the original RTF file of "Awake In The Heartland"
Mom talks openly about dying. "If I go up in a puff of smoke, don't feel
bad," she says, "because that's what I'm praying for. Just call the
Cremation Society. The card is on the refrigerator." I asked her once if
she was afraid of dying. "Oh no," she said. "It's only the body that's
falling off."
Now, here is the same section from the .ARk file
Mom talks openly about dying. "If I go up in a puff of smoke, don't feel
bad," she says, "because that's what I'm praying for. Just call the
Cremation Society. The card is on the refrigerator." I asked her once if
she was afraid of dying. "Oh no," she said. "It's only the body that's
falling off."
What is interesting is that I unpacked the .BKS file again only this time I
chose to create an HTML file and the quotes were there as expected!
Here is the same quote from the HTML file
Mom talks openly about dying. "If I go up in a puff of smoke, don't feel
bad,"she says, "because that's what I'm praying for. Just call the
Cremation Society.
The card is on the refrigerator." I asked her once if she was afraid of
dying. "Oh no,"she said. "It's only the body that's falling off."
and lastly, here is the XML version
Mom talks openly about dying. ?If I go up in a puff of smoke, don't feel
bad,?she says, ?because that's what I'm praying for. Just call the
Cremation Society.
The card is on the refrigerator.? I asked her once if she was afraid of
dying. ?Oh no,?she said. ?It's only the body that's falling off.?
I'm using JAWS 6.0 and I just checked by placing the cursor on a quotation
mark from each of the quotations and pressed numpad 5 several times. This
gives a numeric value of the character. The RTF and HTML values are 148
and the book title I placed in quotes and the ark file are 34.
From the special characters menu in Word 2003 I just inserted the
different types of quotation marks into a blank document and JAWS tells me
that the close quote is 148. Not sure what 34 is.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Chris
At 04:46 PM 3/4/2005, you wrote:
Could you send an excerpt from the original RTF you submitted? I have
seen something called "close quote" in books scanned with Open Book.
Usually I only here quote for quotation marks, so I think those are
different. I still wouldn't know why they would become question marks
in the DAISY version, though. Besides, I would think that about a third
of the books in the collection would look the same if that was the
problem. It would make more sense if it was the BRF that looked funny
after conversion.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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From: "Chris Fleming" <wellbeing@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] All quotes are now question marks in 2 books
approved by Bookshare
> I recently submitted and validated two books:
> Awake In the Heartland by Joan Tollifson and Jerusalem's Heart by
Brock
> Thoene and Bodie Thoene.
>
> Yesterday I received the approval e-mails from Bookshare and thought
I'd
> download the copies and see how they turned out.
>
> I downloaded the Daisy versions of both files.
> Well, I read about 70 pages of "Awake In The Heartland" and noticed
that
> something strange was going on with the way JAWS was reading quoted
> text. I checked and throughout the document anything in quotes has a
> question mark at the beginning and at the end of the quotation.
>
> Here is the process I used in scanning and validating.
>
> I scanned both books in this manner.
>
> Used Openbook 7.02 with scan in background--because I like to correct
> errors as I read.
>
> Saved file first as an ark file while I was scanning.
>
> Once scanning was completed, saved file as an RTF file.
>
> Opened the RTF file in Microsoft Word 2003, removed headings, made
sure
> page breaks and page numbers were accurate.
> Did a spell check, saved the RTF as an RTF.
> Used Winzip to zip the file and submitted it to Bookshare.
>
> I then waited several days to see if the books would be downloaded and
> validated by someone else and they weren't so I downloaded them from
> Bookshare and opened each file just to check and see if they were as I
had
> left them--and both were. I then turned around, used the same zipped
files
> I had downloaded and uploaded them from the step 2 page.
>
> I double checked and the .ark files and the original RTF files both
have
> double quotes. Any ideas? I am using Windows XP with the latest
updates.
>
> I might also add that I opened the xml files and also opened the books
in
> Victor.
>
>
>
>
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