[bksvol-discuss] Re: A question re homonyms in context
- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:12:05 -0500
This is a very interesting topic for me, because when I could hear speech,
Jaws was not available. I do remember that on my first computer, a DOS
computer, in my email, in Braille, it spelled read and unread, as in
messages that have been read or unread, as the color red, and unred, and
this really seemed so dumb to me. Now Jaws at least spells things correctly
provided they are written correctly.
Just some input.
Sue S.
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From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:43 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question re homonyms in context
It certainly just doesn't read them in isolation. When I read the example
using up and down arrows, it pronounced lead as led, but when I used control
left and right arrows to read one word at a time, it pronounced lead as
leed. So it apparently does have at least some limited contextual ability.
She was an invalid.
It was an invalid argument.
It pronounces the two 'invalids' differently, and correctly in both cases.
Interestingly, when I use control right and left arrow over the two
'invalids', it still pronounces them differently and correctly, unlike the
'lead' 'led' case.
So at least in the case of JAWS, Cindy, I think it will pronounce the words
correctly in context. I hadn't realized that this was going on, and it
certainly isn't perfect. In your original message, where you said:
"... does the speech reader read both words however the first one happens to
be pronounced?"
JAWS pronounced 'read' as 'red' even though 'reed' is clearly correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Riddle" <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question re homonyms in context
> Well, like I said, I'm just making an educated guess on how it works. I
> don't know for sure though.
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> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:13 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question re homonyms in context
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>
>> Dear Robert,
>>
>> I won't be the one to correct you. Look how systematic and logical your
>> explanation is compared with mine. Thinking of triads in sentences is a
>> new perspective for me. Very interesting.
>>
>> Always with love,
>>
>> Lissi
>>
>> "My story is finally out there in the ether, a self-sufficient organism
>> beyond my control, changing shape in every new mind that absorbs it."
>> From The Night Listener, a novel by
>> Armistead Maupin
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Riddle" <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:31 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question re homonyms in context
>>
>>
>>> Well, modern synthesizers use what are called triads to creat speech.
>>> FOr example,
>>> My feet were made of lead.
>>> I want to lead the batallion.
>>> The synthesizer uses groups of three words, I want to lead, made of
>>> lead, to creat sentences and determine how these words are pronounced,
>>> leed versus led invalid versus invalid. It's usually consistant in it's
>>> pronunciation, but errors do occur in some cases.
>>>
>>> This is of course just how I have figured it out, I am open to being
>>> corrected, though.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:23 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A question re homonyms in context
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the book I'm almost finished validating, there is a
>>>> play on words--invalid, meaning sick person, and
>>>> invalid, i.e., in val id, meaning not valid. The
>>>> latter word is discussed, its meanings--but I'm
>>>> curious--how does speech, i.e., the Daisy reader or
>>>> whatever, distinguish pronunciations between homonyms
>>>> in texts. In this case, in val id is italicized. Will
>>>> the speech reader chnage the pronunciation from
>>>> invalid to in val id because of that? Of will it
>>>> pronounce both words the same and the reader will get
>>>> the difference from the explanation that is given. In
>>>> other similar cases, does the speech reader read both
>>>> words however the first one happens to be pronounced?
>>>>
>>>> Just curious.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
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