[AZ-Observing] Re: Phoenix man sentenced for shining laser at two commercial airliners, police helicopter over Valley

  • From: "Richard Harshaw" <rharshaw2@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:20:46 -0700

Is this laser story dead yet? Puulllleeeze!



Richard Harshaw
Cave Creek, Arizona
Brilliant Sky Observatory


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Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Phoenix man sentenced for shining laser at two
commercial airliners, police helicopter over Valley

However, using Dan's logic as the impetus and given a proper defense that
invalidated the claims of potential harm for the commercial pilots, the
sentence could have been much less - regardless of the federal vs. local
standing.  And if nothing else, it could further publicly identify the
overly zealous and heavy handed nature of those organizations.

Sorry to go political on this, but after my last wonderfully relaxing trip
throughout the Aegean and Med (6 countries) and my return to our wonderful,
free country (where it took over 30 minutes  and an LSAT-level load of
questions to get through customs as a citizen with nothing to declare),
anything that can be done to put those guys in their place is a plus in my
eyes.

Tim

On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rick Tejera wrote:

> Tim,
> Not sure what his lawyer could've done, he admitted to doing it and 
> regardless of the effect on the pilots, it is a crime to knowingly 
> shine a laser at an aircraft. Seems he was charged with a local 
> ordinance as opposed to a federal case (which he could have been) The 
> TSA & FAA would not been quite so lenient. I seem to recall some schmo 
> in Maryland getting a year at the Graybar and his vacation wasn't all 
> expenses paid, he also got fined to the tune of $10,000.  Granted, I 
> think he was the first to be charge and as such, as is the FAA's custom,
they chose to make an example of him.
> 
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Jones
> Sent: Thursday, 09 August, 2012 10:28
> To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Phoenix man sentenced for shining laser at 
> two commercial airliners, police helicopter over Valley
> 
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Dan Heim wrote:
> 
>> And your comment about choppers being more vulnerable makes perfect
sense.
> Airliners at altitude, though, would seem fairly impervious to your 
> average laser pointer. When you take beam divergence and angle of 
> incidence into account, there ain't gonna be that much laser light
entering the cockpit.
> 
> While I agree with the be careful, use common sense train of thought, 
> I also feel that his attorney didn't serve him properly.
> 
> Tim
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