Fabulous, Mark (K) Did you write this in FrameMaker*? *The only program where everything equals 20? Now I can see why so many people use it. (Coughs) Sorry Christine (B-K), but Word is a page (or even styled paragraph) based word processor, whereas FrameMaker is an object-oriented but chapter / book based desktop publishing application. They work in quite different ways under different operating paradigms. Think of a mid to late 1980s desktop publishing tool from the Mac or the Amiga, insist on having only have a single level of undo from the keyboard (you have to endure the pain of going back to earlier auto saves if you want to undo more) and voila! Now add a chapter based operating paradigm that allows for creating massive books that can become other media (a master template that controls the included chapter files and can make them do precisely what the designer wants) then impose STRUCTURE (heaps of structure!) which actively prevents you from working in any way other than the original document designer intended - far from the free-form ways of Word - which can be a marvellous thing in a widespread corporate world looking to impose consistency, but no fun for individualists and control freaks lower down the documentation food chain. Then (unless you are on UNIX and a big fan of "vi" or have purchased a third party macro recorder / editor) forget about automating most tasks and there you have it. Now why on Earth haven't you seen The Light and worked on Frame before? The learning curve, after working with Word, will have you beating your head against your keyboard. It insists on a whole different way of thinking. If you start with FrameMaker, stick with it by all means as, whatever I might have said above, it is an absolutely marvellous tool for those entirely familiar with it and using it every day. But if you started with Word, have used it every day and suddenly need to use ONLY FrameMaker every day, be prepared for large and unrelenting dollops, even waves of mental anguish. Smoke will come out of your ears, Christine! Otherwise, do enjoy! Cheers, Michael (With apologies to Mark K for sending up his obviously thoughtful but almost unintelligible post.) Michael E. Granat Qualified Good Tech Writer Dude Fellowship Of The Ring Of Tech Writers, Yeah Baby! T/as Write Ideas E-mail: mailto:writeideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: <http://home.pacific.net.au/~megranat/> Without Prejudice. E&OE. Quoting "Kofler Mark, Melbourne" <Mark.Kofler@xxxxxxxxx>: > Hi=20Christine, > Trying=20translate=20what=20you=20can=20do=20in=20Word=20to=20what=20you=20= > can=20do=20in=20Frame=20is <snip> > blishing > metaphor. > Cheers=20Mark > ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************