Well (lack of) goodness me, Elizabeth (Fullerton), From the Collins English Dictionary, Australian Edition: doughnut or (esp. US) donut. n. 1. a small cake of sweetened dough, often=20 ring shaped or spherical with a jam or cream filling, cooked in hot fat. 2.= =20 anything shaped like a ring, such as the reaction vessel of a thermonuclear= =20 reactor. ~ vb. -nuts, -nutting, -nutted. 3. (tr.) Informal (of Members of=20 Parliament) to surround (a speaker) during the televising of Parliament to= =20 give the impression that the chamber is crowded and the speaker well= supported. No etymology provided but methinks it might come from the shape of a nut as= =20 in nut and bolt. Very much doubt that it comes from the British acronym NUT for National=20 Union of Teachers. Dough! Michael Granat Write Ideas "As you go through life, whatever be your role, keep your eye upon the=20 doughnut and not upon the hole." (Perhaps poorly recalled theme line from the Downyflake Doughnut shop at=20 Chadstone Shopping Centre, Victoria, late 1960s or early to mid 1970s,=20 before the place turned into a thermonuclear shopping reactor.) At 16:50 25/2/2004, you wrote: >what does dollars to doughnuts actually mean? - i'll bet you fifty bucks = =3D >against fifty doughnuts? it really depends on the price of doughnuts as =3D >to whether that's a good deal for the other person. and then there are =3D >all the associated health issues. > >and how did the word doughnut actually come about? - i can get the =3D >"dough" part, but the "nut" part? > > > > I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that I'm right on this one. Michael Granat =97 Write Ideas* Plain English Technical Communication. Advertising Copywriting. Business Writing. E-mail: writeideas@xxxxxxxx Web Site: <http://home.pacific.net.au/~megranat/> *Trading As business #0828673K Registered (1987) Corporate Affairs Victoria, Australia. WITHOUT PREJUDICE E & OE ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************