I'm not only grumpy and old, but I'm also gruff and uncool. All of the "endorsements" I've received are from people I haven't worked with. I had an endorsement the other day from a mate. I emailed back: how would you know? He replied that he thought I been doing whatever it was for ages. I shot back that it doesn't mean that I'm any good at it. LinkedIn seems to be becoming more and more Facebook-like every day. On 1 June 2013 16:36, Rod Stuart <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's often a grey area isn't it? > > > On 1 June 2013 15:33, Howard Silcock <howard.silcock@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Maybe we should have put OT. In my case many of the endorsements came from >> members of this list, and I assumed that was the case for Geoffrey too, so >> it seemed relevant to the list. >> >> Howard >> >> On 1 June 2013 15:06, Rod Stuart <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> It's not your assertion that you two are grumpy old men that you need to >>> worry about. The biggest danger is that the gestapo will discover you >>> neglected to put OT in the subject line! >>> >>> >>> On 1 June 2013 14:58, Howard Silcock <howard.silcock@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think I'd better jump in quickly and disavow the implication that >>>> Geoffrey and I are grumpy old men! What I was going to say was that I >>>> expected that our views on this topic might be subject to that kind of >>>> criticism. Of course, that would have been unfair and unjustified. But I'm >>>> pleased to see that our views are getting support. >>>> >>>> Yesterday I received a letter from some LinkedIn official, suggesting >>>> that I was most privileged to be offered an opportunity to participate in >>>> one of their surveys - this one was on the topic of personal finance. Gee, >>>> what an opportunity - provide them, for nothing, with data to allow them to >>>> make more money out of advertising! >>>> >>>> Howard >>>> >>>> On 1 June 2013 12:45, Rod Stuart <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Far be it from me to argue against the proposition that Geoffrey and >>>>> Howard are grumpy old men, but in this case their arguments regarding >>>>> Linkedin are in my humble opinion appropriate, and in fact spot on, as is >>>>> quite possibly the case for any of these "social networking' concepts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1 June 2013 11:40, Howard Silcock <howard.silcock@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was about to send a post suggesting that Geoffrey and I were in >>>>>> danger of becoming the grumpy old men of this list for our views on >>>>>> LinkedIn >>>>>> endorsements when I saw to my relief that others had similar views! I >>>>>> have >>>>>> posted to this list before about this subject, suggesting that it makes >>>>>> little sense to endorse someone for something unless you (a) are familiar >>>>>> with their work - that is, have actually read documents they've produced >>>>>> or >>>>>> seen other products of their labours - and (b) have some expertise in the >>>>>> subject yourself. This makes me more churlish than Geoffrey, because it >>>>>> implicitly casts doubt on some of the endorsements I've received for >>>>>> skills >>>>>> I do have, as well as obviously implying that endorsing for skills I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> have is just ridiculous. But Michelle's description of what the process >>>>>> actually involves is very interesting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Howard >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 June 2013 10:44, Bill Parker >>>>>> <bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And just to show how silly this whole bloody Linkedin thing is I have >>>>>>> put in my profile "Morris Dancing" ( because I do). I completed that >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then found myself ( no idea how) with pages and pages of people with >>>>>>> similar >>>>>>> interests. What? Morris dancing? How can that be? >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 01/06/2013, at 6:18 AM, Geoffrey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello austechies >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To the many of you who have endorsed me for skills I do have, thank >>>>>>> you. To those who have endorsed me for skills I do not have, what on >>>>>>> earth >>>>>>> were you thinking? Are you deliberately trying to frame in the minds of >>>>>>> others an image of me that I am not? Folks, I am not a copy-writer, I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> never been a copy-writer, and don’t want in any way to be associated >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the pernicious black-art of copy-writing (with its screaming >>>>>>> intensifications and its implicit belittlements that border on >>>>>>> psycho-abuse: >>>>>>> “you have not truly lived unless you have experienced the exhilaration >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the sensual styling of the all newHowdie V12”, “ Go on, be a real mum >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> give them Caries Flakes for breakfast and” … you get my drift). So why >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> some you endorsing my non-existent copy-writing skills? A miasma of >>>>>>> deception commingling with defamation is nettling my nostrils. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And why are some of you endorsing my software development skills? >>>>>>> Crikey, I wouldn’t know a class statement if it reared up at me in >>>>>>> bloody >>>>>>> revolution. And the last time I executed a branch, it fell smashingly >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> neighbour’s fence. Stop it, stop it, stop it. Resist the temptation to >>>>>>> endorse the dim-witted guesses of that cog-slipping, Watts-driven >>>>>>> perpetuator of misinformation, that generator of self-aggrandisement, >>>>>>> called LinkedIn. (Someone admitted the other day, to a table of lunching >>>>>>> professionals who had met through LinkedIn, that she had touched up her >>>>>>> LinkedIn photograph to make her look younger. I’m glad she was frank, >>>>>>> because many of us had been wondering when the other [name withheld] was >>>>>>> going to turn up.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone needs reminding of just how dumb and misleading software >>>>>>> can be, turn on your Microsoft Word’s grammar checker. The absurdity of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> recommendations of the world’s reputedly smartest programmers might >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> inspire you to turn off a lot of other software that clogs up our lives >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> pretend knowledge while pick-pocketing our privacy along the way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a word: stop misrepresenting others through thoughtless >>>>>>> endorsements. It sours morally no less than a deliberate lie. As does >>>>>>> photo-shopping a glamour you may once have thought you had. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a world of lies, thank the gods for Mr Curly and his duck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Geoffrey Marnell >>>>>>> Principal Consultant >>>>>>> Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd >>>>>>> P: 03 9596 3456 >>>>>>> M: 0419 574 668 >>>>>>> F: 03 9596 3625 >>>>>>> W: www.abelard.com.au >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rod Stuart >>>>> 6 Brickhill Drive >>>>> Dilston, TAS 7252, Australia >>>>> <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> M((040) 184 6575 V(03) 6328 1543 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rod Stuart >>> 6 Brickhill Drive >>> Dilston, TAS 7252, Australia >>> <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> >>> M((040) 184 6575 V(03) 6328 1543 >> >> > > > > -- > Rod Stuart > 6 Brickhill Drive > Dilston, TAS 7252, Australia > <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> > M((040) 184 6575 V(03) 6328 1543 -- *************************************************** Chris Virtue __O The revolution will not be motorised \_\<, - apologies to Gil Scott-Heron ( )/( ) *************************************************** ************************************************** To view the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field (without quotes). 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