Well, that's why I suggested "FrameMaker for Word users". I doubt you could usefully cover All About FrameMaker or even FrameMaker 101 in ten minutes. I don't think "familiar concept, different name" needs to be in a groktalk. "Same name, different concept" is much trickier--things like templates and frames would be well worth covering because they're more likely to trip up Word users who are learning Frame. Unfamiliar concepts are definitely worth covering. They are "unknown unknowns", as Donald Rumsfield might say. These would be things like generated lists, reference pages, master pages and conditional text. You won't master any of these things in a brief talk, but having grokked or grasped them, you're off to a flying head start. Cheers --- Stuart Burnfield Information Developer Australian Programming Centre Craig said: > > FrameMaker ...basic concepts would more than take > > care of the infamous FrameMaker learning curve > > Yes, I think a solid grounding would go a long way, > but FrameMaker is still a big program, and it's > unlikely that you'd use all of it (eg TOC setup, > building-blocks for numbering, dictionary-style > headers) very often, so I believe it still takes a > long time to learn. (We tend to forget how long > familiar programs took us to learn, but I reckon most > take several months of intensive use, if not more. I'm > talking about "grokking" (immersive understanding) not > just basic usage -- the latter would normally take > only around 30 minutes, say.) > > As I said in the "Word to Frame" thread back at the > start of Feb, much of the problem many people have > when they start using FrameMaker is the unfamiliar > terminology and UI -- the _concepts_ are familiar, but > not how they're done or even what they're called! 10 > minutes from a knowledgeable FrameMaker user would go > a long way to removing those barriers. ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************