[audacity4blind] Re: Some more new beginer questions
- From: "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:14:00 +0100
Hi Brad and Sharni!
I agree with Brads method of selecting the whole track and then checking
its length by pressing ctrl-f6, choosing Length from the radio buttons and
tabbing down four times to get to the field displaying the length. I would
like to point out however, that ctrl-end does not select a track. It moves
the cursor to the end of the project, which can be quite a different thing
if there are a number of tracks aligned end to end. Press shift-k to select
audio from the cursor position to the end of a track. To select the whole
track, press j to move to the start of the track and then press shift-k.
Note that this effects all tracks selected by pressing enter. If you have
many tracks, press ctrl-shift-A to begin with, to make sure no tracks are
selected. Then press enter on the desired track and proceed per the above.
Cheers, Robbie
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brad Erhardt
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:30 AM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Some more new beginer questions
Hi sorry about any confusion, first of all, if you are running your audacity
on a windows based system such as windows Vista then control F6 should take
you through three areas. If you are by chance running audacity on a
macintosh system then you need to use command F6.
If I am in the track table perhaps looking at track one for example, and I
press Control + F6, those keys together, should take me to a group of
controls which can show some different information depending on what you
select. So to start with it might just tell me the start position or end
position of my track, but there are some radio buttons, and if I select
length then it should show me the length of the entire track. Alternatively,
I can select the whole track first, so from the track table, make sure your
track in question is selected and not playing, then press Control + end.
This should select the whole length of the track, now press the Control + F6
and your start and end boxes should now reflect the length of the track, so
Start might be 0 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds but end might be 0 hours 52
minutes and 3 seconds for an example.
Now if you were to follow these steps on track two and set its start time to
the same end time of the first track, then as the message I included
suggested align track with cursor start, will now set your second track to
begin after the first.
You need to press Control + F6 twice now to return to the track table. Can
anyone else give any further help on this topic?
Thanks,
And I hope this helps.
On 2014-02-09, at 1:45 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Hi Brad,
You said something about ctrl +F6 bringing up some boxes showing the length
of the track. I'm not seeing that unless I pause at a certain point, and
even then it only shows the length of time between the start of the track
and the position the playback cursor is. Could you clarify where I can find
the length of my entire track? I'd like to be able to check this information
easily, especially when I have the right equipment to start doing audio
readings of certain fanfictions like I plan to. Any help would be sincerely
appreciated. :D
_____
From: brad.erhardt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Some more new beginer questions
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:41:13 -0800
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi as to your second question about signature music and having it mixed out
as you begin, Audacity does have a nice feature in the affects menu called
fade out. So if you place your signature music piece in the track and select
a small part of the end of it, it can fade out that is drop in volume.
Otherwise if you want it to play in the background while you speak, there is
a feature in the affect menu called autoduck. This will work but you need
your voice recording on another track. There are further discussions on
autoduck on the audacity for blind users email list website.
Now as to your tracks with various chapters, there are a few things you can
do.
Let us say you have chapter one in your first track and chapter two in your
second track.
If from chapter one track, you press control F6 there are some boxes that
will tell you the length of that track. So let us say that your first
chapter is 1 hour and 20 minutes long. So now what you want to do is have
chapter two start at that time, so in order to do this, what we will do is
specify 1 hour and 20 minutes as the starting time for track two. I will
paste in a previous message from someone on this list that was very helpful
in explaining this to me. Once your second track starts at that time, there
is a further option in the tracks menu called mix and rendor which will
place all tracks on one track if that is preferred so you can export the
entire book to an mp3 format. Or you can export each track separately.
Now as to the technique for aligning your tracks,
Begin message from other member
Hi Rich
The previous answers seem to overlook one of the most crucial aspects,
namely the efficient controlling of the right alignement.
Here's my procedure to align two tracks precisely. But first, We will
assign some keys to make it all easier. Search in
preferences-->keyboard for the listed command and assign either the
letter in brackets or your own combination.
1. Play Region Lock; Key Combination: [Q]
2. Play Region Unlock; Key Combination: [Shift+Q]
3. Align Tracks Start to Cursor/Selection Start; Key Combination: [T]
4. Move forward from toolbars to tracks; Key Combination: [F6]
(this would by default be Ctrl F6)
The other shortcuts are standard.
Now, for the procedure itself:
1. Select a track, preferably the one that starts earlier.
2. Play [Space] until a suitable point for comparison (both,
background and guitar onset are audible)
3. Press either [Left Bracket and Space] or [Shift A] to set the
cursor and stop the playback. Those commands are essentially equal.
4. Press Q to lock the playback start at this position.
5. [J] moves to the start of the selected track.
6. (Ctrl-) F6 brings us to the Spin boxes.
7. [Shift Tab] until we reach "Selection Start"
8. Increasing one of the numbers (seconds, ms or samples) moves the
audio cursor to the right. Decreasing does the opposite.
9. [T] aligns the track start with the new cursor position.
10. Press [Space] to control the alignment.
11. We repeat steps 7 to 9 until we are happy with the result.
11. [Shift Q] unlocks the play position and two times [(Ctrl-) F6]
brings us back to the track view.
I use the lock commands because my instrument seldom starts at the
very beginning of the two tracks and I don't want to listen each time
for 20 s to judge about the alignment.
The Spin box gives you the greatest freedom with regard to the accuracy.
You may want to change the Time-format in order to get a higher
resolution with ms or samples at the end. Choose it from within the
Spin box by opening the context menu.
You can of course also use the arrow keys (in the track view) to move
the cursor. However, this is less precise since the step width is
dependant on the current zoom factor.
You can increase the precision by zooming in [Ctrl 1]. [Ctrl 3] zooms
out again and [Ctrl 2] resets the zoom.
Finally, there's a bundle of 4 simple plug-ins available to shift the
track by exactly 1 or 10 ms. I've written those in order to have more
control and to know immediately how big the shift width is.
http://forum.audacityteam.org/download/file.php?id=8975
After extraction, placing in the plug-in folder and re-start of
Audacity, they will appear in the effect menu:
"1 ms Shift Left" (proposed key combination: Ctrl-Alt Left)
"1 ms Shift Right" (proposed key combination: Ctrl-Alt Right)
"10 ms Shift Left" (proposed key combination: Ctrl Left)
"10 ms Shift Right" (proposed key combination: Ctrl Right)
The procedure from the very beginning will greatly be simplified:
1. Set listening point with [Space] [Shift A] [Q].
2. Jump to the track start and select all or at least a few seconds,
e.g. [J] [Shift K]
3. Shift the track with one of the plug-ins (via the shortcuts)
4. listen with [Space]
5. Repeat Steps 3 and 4 until you're satisfied.
6. Unlock the playback start with [Shift Q]
Sorry, that's quite a longish mail. You may want to read it a few times.
Please ask if some points need clarification or editing.
Regards
Robert
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I hope this all helps, and Thanks to Robert for the included message.
On 2014-02-09, at 8:54 AM, Alexander Masic/SuperSnyggingen! wrote:
Hi. first of all i would like to say thanks for that pod about audacitty
wich some person here send to me, and allso very good that you diden't speak
to fast and with an easy english wich was easy for me to understand.
And now to my question
Lets say i would record something wich contains many track.. like a book
with many captures, capture 1 on trac 1, capture 2 on track 2 and so on. Now
let's say i would like to put them together in one track, I have tryed to
mark it with ctrl+a and paste it with ctrl+v with the end of track were i
want to place it. But i diden't work for me to do that. So how do i solve
that?
And my other question is if i would like to make a e.g pod and have some
signature/music on the begining and would like to like a profecional do purn
the music down like a mix it out.. or how to describe it???? How do i do
that?
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