[audacity4blind] Re: Some more new beginer questions

  • From: Brad Erhardt <brad.erhardt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:29:47 -0800

Hi sorry about any confusion, first of all, if you are running your audacity on 
a windows based system such as windows Vista then control F6 should take you 
through three areas. If you are by chance running audacity on a macintosh 
system then you need to use command F6.

If I am in the track table perhaps looking at track one for example, and I 
press Control + F6, those keys together, should take me to a group of controls 
which can show some different information depending on what you select. So to 
start with it might just tell me the start position or end position of my 
track, but there are some radio buttons, and if I select length then it should 
show me the length of the entire track. Alternatively, I can select the whole 
track first, so from the track table, make sure your track in question is 
selected and not playing, then press Control + end. This should select the 
whole length of the track, now press the Control + F6 and your start and end 
boxes should now reflect the length of the track, so Start might be 0 hours, 0 
minutes and 0 seconds but end might be 0 hours 52 minutes and 3 seconds for an 

Now if you were to follow these steps on track two and set its start time to 
the same end time of the first track, then as the message I included suggested 
align track with cursor start, will now set your second track to begin after 
the first.

You need to press Control + F6 twice now to return to the track table. Can 
anyone else give any further help on this topic? 

And I hope this helps.
On 2014-02-09, at 1:45 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

> Hi Brad,
> You said something about ctrl +F6 bringing up some boxes showing the length 
> of the track. I'm not seeing that unless I pause at a certain point, and even 
> then it only shows the length of time between the start of the track and the 
> position the playback cursor is. Could you clarify where I can find the 
> length of my entire track? I'd like to be able to check this information 
> easily, especially when I have the right equipment to start doing audio 
> readings of certain fanfictions like I plan to. Any help would be sincerely 
> appreciated. :D
> From: brad.erhardt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Some more new beginer questions
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:41:13 -0800
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi as to your second question about signature music and having it mixed out 
> as you begin, Audacity does have a nice feature in the affects menu called 
> fade out. So if you place your signature music piece in the track and select 
> a small part of the end of it, it can fade out that is drop in volume. 
> Otherwise if you want it to play in the background while you speak, there is 
> a feature in the affect menu called autoduck. This will work but you need 
> your voice recording on another track. There are further discussions on 
> autoduck on the audacity for blind users email list website. 
> Now as to your tracks with various chapters, there are a few things you can 
> do. 
> Let us say you have chapter one in your first track and chapter two in your 
> second track. 
> If from chapter one track, you press control F6 there are some boxes that 
> will tell you the length of that track. So let us say that your first chapter 
> is 1 hour and 20 minutes long. So now what you want to do is have chapter two 
> start at that time, so in order to do this, what we will do is specify 1 hour 
> and 20 minutes as the starting time for track two. I will paste in a previous 
> message from someone on this list that was very helpful in explaining this to 
> me. Once your second track starts at that time, there is a further option in 
> the tracks menu called mix and rendor which will place all tracks on one 
> track if that is preferred so you can export the entire book to an mp3 
> format. Or you can export each track separately.
> Now as to the technique for aligning your tracks, 
> Begin message from other member 
> Hi Rich
> The previous answers seem to overlook one of the most crucial aspects,
> namely the efficient controlling of the right alignement.
> Here's my procedure to align two tracks precisely. But first, We will
> assign some keys to make it all easier. Search in
> preferences-->keyboard  for the listed command and assign either the
> letter in brackets or your own combination.
> 1. Play Region Lock; Key Combination: [Q]
> 2. Play Region Unlock; Key Combination: [Shift+Q]
> 3. Align Tracks Start to Cursor/Selection Start; Key Combination: [T]
> 4. Move forward from toolbars to tracks; Key Combination: [F6]
>   (this would by default be Ctrl F6)
> The other shortcuts are standard.
> Now, for the procedure itself:
> 1. Select a track, preferably the one that starts earlier.
> 2. Play [Space] until a suitable point for comparison (both,
> background and guitar onset are audible)
> 3. Press either [Left Bracket and Space] or [Shift A] to set the
> cursor and stop the playback. Those commands are essentially equal.
> 4. Press Q to lock the playback start at this position.
> 5. [J] moves to the start of the selected track.
> 6. (Ctrl-) F6 brings us to the Spin boxes.
> 7. [Shift Tab] until we reach "Selection Start"
> 8. Increasing one of the numbers (seconds, ms or samples) moves the
> audio cursor to the right. Decreasing does the opposite.
> 9. [T] aligns the track start with the new cursor position.
> 10. Press [Space] to control the alignment.
> 11. We repeat steps 7 to 9 until we are happy with the result.
> 11. [Shift Q] unlocks the play position and two times [(Ctrl-) F6]
> brings us back to the track view.
> I use the lock commands because my instrument seldom starts at the
> very beginning of the two tracks and I don't want to listen each time
> for 20 s to judge about the alignment.
> The Spin box gives you the greatest freedom with regard to the accuracy.
> You may want to change the Time-format in order to get a higher
> resolution with ms or samples at the end. Choose it from within the
> Spin box by opening the context menu.
> You can of course also use the arrow keys (in the track view) to move
> the cursor. However, this is less precise since the step width is
> dependant on the current zoom factor.
> You can increase the precision by zooming in [Ctrl 1]. [Ctrl 3] zooms
> out again and [Ctrl 2] resets the zoom.
> Finally, there's a bundle of 4 simple plug-ins available to shift the
> track by exactly 1 or 10 ms. I've written those in order to have more
> control and to know immediately how big the shift width is.
> http://forum.audacityteam.org/download/file.php?id=8975
> After extraction, placing in the plug-in folder and re-start of
> Audacity, they will appear in the effect menu:
> "1 ms Shift Left" (proposed key combination: Ctrl-Alt Left)
> "1 ms Shift Right" (proposed key combination: Ctrl-Alt Right)
> "10 ms Shift Left" (proposed key combination: Ctrl Left)
> "10 ms Shift Right" (proposed key combination: Ctrl Right)
> The procedure from the very beginning will greatly be simplified:
> 1. Set listening point with [Space] [Shift A] [Q].
> 2. Jump to the track start and select all or at least a few seconds,
> e.g. [J] [Shift K]
> 3. Shift the track with one of the plug-ins (via the shortcuts)
> 4. listen with [Space]
> 5. Repeat Steps 3 and 4 until you're satisfied.
> 6. Unlock the playback start with [Shift Q]
> Sorry, that's quite a longish mail. You may want to read it a few times.
> Please ask if some points need clarification or editing.
> Regards
> Robert
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> I hope this all helps, and Thanks to Robert for the included message.
> On 2014-02-09, at 8:54 AM, Alexander Masic/SuperSnyggingen! wrote:
> Hi. first of all i would like to say thanks for that pod about audacitty wich 
> some person here send to me, and allso very good that you diden't speak to 
> fast and with an easy english wich was easy for me to understand.
> And now to my question
> Lets say i would record something wich contains many track.. like a book with 
> many captures, capture 1 on trac 1, capture 2 on track 2 and so on. Now let's 
> say i would like to put them together in one track, I have tryed to mark it 
> with ctrl+a and paste it with ctrl+v with the end of track were i want to 
> place it. But i diden't work for me to do that. So how do i solve that?
> And my other question is if i would like to make a e.g pod and have some 
> signature/music on the begining and would like to like a profecional do purn 
> the music down like a mix it out.. or how to describe it???? How do i do that?
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