[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity

  • From: Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:15:27 +0100

Hi…
I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
I can select just with interact with selection bar.
That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
Thank you for your help…

        Amicalement…
        ——————

        Manu
- Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Skype : manu-dpk

        Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : 
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        L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
        Elle  regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but 
est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des 
ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. 
        Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org

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> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a 
> écrit :
> 
> Hi Manu and others!
> 
> Manu:
> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some accessibility 
> issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the numbers if you do not use 
> the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the numbers.
> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users of 
> Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find this 
> guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I believe.
> 
> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows 
> fashion  way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual compared 
> to how you would use standard Mac applications.
> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the 
> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do in 
> Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you otherwise will 
> miss some important informations, and the screen seems confusing. At least 
> that was what my experience was when i first used Audacity.
> 
> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that tells 
> Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others on this list.
> 
> Now to the selection issue:
> 1. Record your sound.
> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start press 
> shift-a.
> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection, or 
> simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll hear the 
> sound from where the cursor is placed.
> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right 
> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of 
> selection marker.
> 
> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
> 
> That is how I do this most of the time.
> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some questions 
> for selection as well:
> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the selection, 
> without removing the selection. I am not talking about the preview feature 
> where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when I 
> have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the left of 
> the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is that the 
> increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so instead of hearing 
> the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds instead.
> And lastly:
> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before that 
> spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming up if I 
> need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural, and if I need 
> to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press home to get to the 
> begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a little to the lfet or 
> just be able to hear a little to the left of the cursor.
> 
> Best regards
> Thomas
>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thank for your reply.
>> I tested  theses following actions :
>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play 
>> selection (OK)
>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as well.
>> 
>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds to 
>> end selection 0000003S (OK)
>> 5. Delete (OK)
>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe... 
>> 
>>      Amicalement…
>>      ——————
>> 
>>      Manu
>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>> 
>>      Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : 
>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>> 
>>      L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>      Elle  regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but 
>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des 
>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. 
>>      Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org 
>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left and 
>>> right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In case of a 
>>> different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned to the marks 
>>> in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences menu; probably the 
>>> same applies to mac as well.
>>>  
>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>  
>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying 
>>> before editing my track…
>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily  with my arrow keys…
>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ? Beginner 
>>> marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s  between  two 
>>> markers ?
>>>  
>>> Amicalement…
>>> ——————
>>> 
>>> Manu
>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>> 
>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : 
>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>> 
>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>> Elle  regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but est 
>>> de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des 
>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. 
>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org 
>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>> 
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>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>  
>>>> Hello.
>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the same 
>>>> problem with the windows version.
>>>>  
>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all the 
>>>> audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection.
>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu and
>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box checked, 
>>>> and unchecked it.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before 
>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules apply to 
>>>> the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>  
>>>> From: Man
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example, begin 
>>>> selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust 
>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or 
>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I  delete selection, 
>>>> all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in selection bar what 
>>>> it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection and not 
>>>> all content of track !!!
>>>>  
>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>  
>>>> Amicalement…
>>>> ——————
>>>> 
>>>> Manu
>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>> 
>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : 
>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>> 
>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>> Elle  regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but est 
>>>> de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des 
>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. 
>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org 
>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>> 
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