[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
- From: Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:58:35 +0100
Hi Thomas and others,
For mac Users, to use the selection mode with selection bar in Audacity,
there’re the following instructions :
1. R : to record.
2. Space bar : to stop recording
3. Interact (VO+Shift+down arrow key) with Panel bar, verify if the track you
want work with, is selected. Ever to switch select/unselecte)
4. Uninteract with panel bar (VO+Shift+Up arrow key), and interact with
selection bar.
5. Here you have 3 areas with time : Begin selection, end selection and cursor
position. Use VOright arrow key or left arrow key to switch between the 3
areas. For example, select de begin selection. Here you can display multi
display time format. With VO+Shift+M) access to context menu and change the
display time format. Select « Seconds ». Use right arrow key and left arrow key
to switch between 00000. To select at 3 seconds of your recordings, do 4 times
right arrows key and 3 times up arrows key to display 00003. Make the same
thing for the end selection to 10 seconds of your recording, so 3 times right
arrow key and 1 time up arrow key to display 00010. You are selected at
3seconds to 10seconds of your recordings.
6. apply your actions.
I don’t know if I wrote correctly and everybody hunderstood.
Very sorry for my bad english…
Amicalement…
——————
Manu
- Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Skype : manu-dpk
Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
http://www.manu-dpk.net
L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
—————————————————————————————————————————————
Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce n’est
pas nécessaire.
> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 09:05, Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> Yes i Will repli this afternoon !
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 09:02, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Manu!
>>
>> Glad you got it to work! :-)
>> If you find any workarounds to my questions below please let me know, since
>> that could speed my workflow up in Audacity.
>> :-)
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
>>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 08.14 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>
>>> Hi mister Thomas,
>>> I’m very happy to say you, it’s OK…
>>> I can select now with my new shortcuts….
>>> Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkkk yoooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
>>>
>>> Amicalement…
>>> ——————
>>>
>>> Manu
>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>
>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>
>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 08:00, Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Thomas,
>>>> I will try t do it…
>>>> And I will come back to reply to you.
>>>> Thank again
>>>>
>>>> Amicalement…
>>>> ——————
>>>>
>>>> Manu
>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>
>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>
>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>
>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 07:35, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Manu!
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay I think I know what’s going on here.
>>>>> The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My
>>>>> keyboard is a Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I
>>>>> changed them to something else.
>>>>> You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document
>>>>> and then edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to
>>>>> change this from the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of
>>>>> the program is changed a little, and there might be small accessibility
>>>>> issues here. I do not use this area myself quite often, so I’m not sure.
>>>>> I did not find it very friendly to navigate at this time, when I just
>>>>> checked, so therefor I would suggest you export the keyboard shortcuts,
>>>>> that part is still easy to get to.
>>>>> 1. Go to Preferences
>>>>> 2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard.
>>>>> 3. Find the button called Export.
>>>>> 4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close
>>>>> Audacity.
>>>>> 5. Open it in Textedit.
>>>>> 6. Edit the following two lines:
>>>>> Left at playback position
>>>>> and:
>>>>> Right at playback position.
>>>>> There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only
>>>>> delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left,
>>>>> and h for right.
>>>>> NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the
>>>>> hotkeys right. That was actually what I discovered after having this
>>>>> issue for YEARS, and I mean years literally!
>>>>> 7. Save your file and close Textedit.
>>>>> 8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again.
>>>>> 9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file.
>>>>> 10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the
>>>>> preferences of Audacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> That should do the trick.
>>>>> If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of
>>>>> list. I only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi…
>>>>>> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
>>>>>> I can select just with interact with selection bar.
>>>>>> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
>>>>>> Thank you for your help…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard
>>>>>>> <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Manu and others!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manu:
>>>>>>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
>>>>>>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some
>>>>>>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the
>>>>>>> numbers if you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the
>>>>>>> numbers.
>>>>>>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users
>>>>>>> of Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to
>>>>>>> find this guide. It is located in the help under advanced,
>>>>>>> accessibility, I believe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows
>>>>>>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual
>>>>>>> compared to how you would use standard Mac applications.
>>>>>>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the
>>>>>>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do
>>>>>>> in Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you
>>>>>>> otherwise will miss some important informations, and the screen seems
>>>>>>> confusing. At least that was what my experience was when i first used
>>>>>>> Audacity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that
>>>>>>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others
>>>>>>> on this list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now to the selection issue:
>>>>>>> 1. Record your sound.
>>>>>>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
>>>>>>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start
>>>>>>> press shift-a.
>>>>>>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection,
>>>>>>> or simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll
>>>>>>> hear the sound from where the cursor is placed.
>>>>>>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the
>>>>>>> right bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the
>>>>>>> end of selection marker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is how I do this most of the time.
>>>>>>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some
>>>>>>> questions for selection as well:
>>>>>>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the
>>>>>>> selection, without removing the selection. I am not talking about the
>>>>>>> preview feature where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
>>>>>>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when
>>>>>>> I have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the
>>>>>>> left of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is
>>>>>>> that the increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so
>>>>>>> instead of hearing the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds
>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>> And lastly:
>>>>>>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before
>>>>>>> that spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s
>>>>>>> coming up if I need to make some edits so the recording still sounds
>>>>>>> natural, and if I need to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I
>>>>>>> have to press home to get to the begining of the track instead of
>>>>>>> moving the cursof a little to the lfet or just be able to hear a little
>>>>>>> to the left of the cursor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Thank for your reply.
>>>>>>>> I tested theses following actions :
>>>>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>>>>>>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to
>>>>>>>> play selection (OK)
>>>>>>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>>>>>>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>>>>>>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds
>>>>>>>> to end selection 0000003S (OK)
>>>>>>>> 5. Delete (OK)
>>>>>>>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>>>>>>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web
>>>>>>>> officiel : http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son.
>>>>>>>> Le but est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des
>>>>>>>> métiers, des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une
>>>>>>>> quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si
>>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left
>>>>>>>>> and right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In
>>>>>>>>> case of a different keeboard, you can probably change the kee
>>>>>>>>> assigned to the marks in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the
>>>>>>>>> preferences menu; probably the same applies to mac as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>>>>>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m
>>>>>>>>> verifying before editing my track…
>>>>>>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys…
>>>>>>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ?
>>>>>>>>> Beginner marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s
>>>>>>>>> between two markers ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le
>>>>>>>>> but est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des
>>>>>>>>> métiers, des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une
>>>>>>>>> quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si
>>>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the
>>>>>>>>>> same problem with the windows version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows,
>>>>>>>>>> all the audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a
>>>>>>>>>> selection.
>>>>>>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>>>>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box
>>>>>>>>>> checked, and unchecked it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track
>>>>>>>>>> before being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these
>>>>>>>>>> rules apply to the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Man
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>>>>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example,
>>>>>>>>>> begin selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>>>>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust
>>>>>>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or
>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>>>>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete
>>>>>>>>>> selection, all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in
>>>>>>>>>> selection bar what it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>>>>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection
>>>>>>>>>> and not all content of track !!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le
>>>>>>>>>> but est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des
>>>>>>>>>> métiers, des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une
>>>>>>>>>> quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si
>>>>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Other related posts:
