Hi Manu! Glad you got it to work! :-) If you find any workarounds to my questions below please let me know, since that could speed my workflow up in Audacity. :-) Best regards Thomas > Den 14/01/2015 kl. 08.14 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Hi mister Thomas, > I’m very happy to say you, it’s OK… > I can select now with my new shortcuts…. > Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkkk yoooooouuuuuuuuuuuu > > Amicalement… > —————— > > Manu > - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > - Skype : manu-dpk > > Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : > http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> > > L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? > Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but > est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des > ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. > Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org > <http://www.dvrgv.org/> > > ————————————————————————————————————————————— > Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce n’est > pas nécessaire. > > > >> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 08:00, Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit : >> >> Thank you very much Thomas, >> I will try t do it… >> And I will come back to reply to you. >> Thank again >> >> Amicalement… >> —————— >> >> Manu >> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> - Skype : manu-dpk >> >> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : >> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> >> >> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? >> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but >> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des >> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. >> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org >> <http://www.dvrgv.org/> >> >> ————————————————————————————————————————————— >> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce >> n’est pas nécessaire. >> >> >> >>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 07:35, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Manu! >>> >>> Okay I think I know what’s going on here. >>> The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My keyboard >>> is a Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I changed >>> them to something else. >>> You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document and >>> then edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to change >>> this from the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of the program >>> is changed a little, and there might be small accessibility issues here. I >>> do not use this area myself quite often, so I’m not sure. I did not find it >>> very friendly to navigate at this time, when I just checked, so therefor I >>> would suggest you export the keyboard shortcuts, that part is still easy to >>> get to. >>> 1. Go to Preferences >>> 2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard. >>> 3. Find the button called Export. >>> 4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close >>> Audacity. >>> 5. Open it in Textedit. >>> 6. Edit the following two lines: >>> Left at playback position >>> and: >>> Right at playback position. >>> There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only >>> delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left, >>> and h for right. >>> NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the hotkeys >>> right. That was actually what I discovered after having this issue for >>> YEARS, and I mean years literally! >>> 7. Save your file and close Textedit. >>> 8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again. >>> 9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file. >>> 10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the >>> preferences of Audacity. >>> >>> That should do the trick. >>> If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of >>> list. I only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Thomas >>>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>: >>>> >>>> Hi… >>>> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers… >>>> I can select just with interact with selection bar. >>>> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad… >>>> Thank you for your help… >>>> >>>> Amicalement… >>>> —————— >>>> >>>> Manu >>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> - Skype : manu-dpk >>>> >>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : >>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> >>>> >>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? >>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but >>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des >>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. >>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org >>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/> >>>> >>>> ————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce >>>> n’est pas nécessaire. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi Manu and others! >>>>> >>>>> Manu: >>>>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months. >>>>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some >>>>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the numbers >>>>> if you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the numbers. >>>>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users >>>>> of Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find >>>>> this guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I >>>>> believe. >>>>> >>>>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows >>>>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual >>>>> compared to how you would use standard Mac applications. >>>>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the >>>>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do in >>>>> Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you otherwise >>>>> will miss some important informations, and the screen seems confusing. At >>>>> least that was what my experience was when i first used Audacity. >>>>> >>>>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that >>>>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others on >>>>> this list. >>>>> >>>>> Now to the selection issue: >>>>> 1. Record your sound. >>>>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar. >>>>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start >>>>> press shift-a. >>>>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection, >>>>> or simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll hear >>>>> the sound from where the cursor is placed. >>>>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right >>>>> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of >>>>> selection marker. >>>>> >>>>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection. >>>>> >>>>> That is how I do this most of the time. >>>>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some >>>>> questions for selection as well: >>>>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the >>>>> selection, without removing the selection. I am not talking about the >>>>> preview feature where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound. >>>>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when I >>>>> have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the >>>>> left of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is >>>>> that the increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so >>>>> instead of hearing the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds instead. >>>>> And lastly: >>>>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before >>>>> that spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming >>>>> up if I need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural, >>>>> and if I need to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press >>>>> home to get to the begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a >>>>> little to the lfet or just be able to hear a little to the left of the >>>>> cursor. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Thomas >>>>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Thank for your reply. >>>>>> I tested theses following actions : >>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK) >>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK) >>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK) >>>>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play >>>>>> selection (OK) >>>>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted. >>>>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK) >>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK) >>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK) >>>>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds >>>>>> to end selection 0000003S (OK) >>>>>> 5. Delete (OK) >>>>>> But this method is easier than the first method… >>>>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe... >>>>>> >>>>>> Amicalement… >>>>>> —————— >>>>>> >>>>>> Manu >>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk >>>>>> >>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : >>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> >>>>>> >>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? >>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but >>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des >>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes. >>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org >>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/> >>>>>> >>>>>> ————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce >>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left >>>>>>> and right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In >>>>>>> case of a different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned >>>>>>> to the marks in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences >>>>>>> menu; probably the same applies to mac as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM >>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for your fast reply. >>>>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying >>>>>>> before editing my track… >>>>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys… >>>>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ? Beginner >>>>>>> marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s between two >>>>>>> markers ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amicalement… >>>>>>> —————— >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Manu >>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : >>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? >>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but >>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, >>>>>>> des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de >>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org >>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce >>>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the >>>>>>>> same problem with the windows version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all >>>>>>>> the audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection. >>>>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found >>>>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box >>>>>>>> checked, and unchecked it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before >>>>>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules apply >>>>>>>> to the mac system, but hope that helps anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Man >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM >>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity. >>>>>>>> I’m mac user. >>>>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example, >>>>>>>> begin selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03. >>>>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust >>>>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or >>>>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow. >>>>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete >>>>>>>> selection, all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in >>>>>>>> selection bar what it’s select and my selection is good. >>>>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection and >>>>>>>> not all content of track !!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amicalement… >>>>>>>> —————— >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Manu >>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel : >>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ? >>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but >>>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, >>>>>>>> des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de >>>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org >>>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si >>>>>>>> ce n’est pas nécessaire. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >