[AR] Re: The Atlantic: Elon Musk and SpaceX Want to Fly From NYC to Shanghai in 39 Minutes

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 13:57:41 -0700

So, nose-first reentry, probably high AOA.

At a WAG, once in a subsonic low AOA glide, fly through a high AOA stall (analogous to the airshow "cobra maneuver" carried through to tail-first)(possibly with RCS post-stall stabilization) into the tail-first landing attitude. (What got labelled "the Death Swoop" back in DC-X days, presumably by someone with no concern for marketing...)

Could be a higher faster earlier transition to tail-first flight, more analogous to F9R, of course.

What TPS to provide the extremely high reusability to meet point-to-point economics?

My take on this particular publicity push: It's more about creating investor perceptions of a huge potential long-term market than it is about realistic medium-term BFR technical objectives.

Because developing BFR is going to take a significant chunk of investment.

And the initial BFR flight version is likely to require a great deal of iterative detail improvement to approach the level of reusability implicit in point-to-point travel market economics.

Not that the point-to-point potential isn't real. (And extremely personally attractive to exactly the people who'd be signing the checks to develop BFR.) Nor that SpaceX hasn't proved themselves extremely able to implement such iterative detail improvements, F9R a case in point.

But point-to-point is likely to happen only some considerable time after BFR first enters orbital transport service.

Henry

On 10/9/2017 3:49 AM, Aplin Alexander T (Redacted sender ATAPLIN for DMARC) wrote:


Have they said anything specific about how they'll recover the BFR second 
stages?

It appears that the second stage is the passenger vehicle, so vertical landing:
https://youtu.be/zqE-ultsWt0

In case link gets corrupted:
youtu[dot]be/zqE-ultsWt0



Alex Aplin

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