edmund ronald wrote: > they will be solved for them. ICC profiles for dcraw or its grandchildren > (this is the argyll list) are a facile and incomplete solution to a wrongly > stated problem, as the yearning for magically perfect profiles evidenced by > highly technical and competent list members confirms every day. It doesn't necessarily follow that because something is not perfect, it has no value. > I do find it rather entertaining that the same camera manufacturers - > Canon, Nikon, Fuji- who got rid of film then state at the ICC meetings that > they will not divulge their cameras spectral sensitivities, linearisations > or white balance data (Nikon) because this is confidential information > which their customers cannot expect to receive. That would be their rendering "secret sauce", so there is no wonder there. It should be possible to make a stab at characterising their equipment if one were really keen about it - not that I see much point. Better off developing your own rendering, as this is part of the creative process. Graeme Gill.