This message was posted by The Embroidery Authority on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1206.html#000009 There's really no secret, it's just needs to be explained by a trainer who "cares". Seriously guys, And this applies to caps as well.. When it comes to visors, you will want to tilt, rotate, pivot (whatever word you choose) the visor/cap on whatever angle is necessary to ensure the sewing surface of the visor/cap is parallel and flat to the needleplate. Just like when we sew "flats". Also use a stiff piece of cap backing no less than 8.5 inches (or so) wide so that it wraps at least halfway around the circular frame and held in place by the strap. If your cap backing isn't stiff enough, use two pieces. I've even used a sheet of printer paper folded in three (like a letter envelope) when cap backing wasn't available. Use a sharp needle, either a 75/11 or 80/12 and slow the machine down to minimize what I call, the "Shimmy Factor" or side to side shaking of the cap. The tighter you hoop the visor/cap in combination with the backing, this will dramatically reduce the "Shimmy Factor". The less shimmy, the faster you can sew. Structured caps will have less shimmy than unstructured caps due to the buckram applied within. Forget about sewing the front and the sides in one pass. If you choose to sew the sides of the cap/visor, hoop it again without the necessary "tilt" used to sew the front. This way the sides won't sew out crooked. Personally, I like using fast frames to sew the sides of a cap. I like sewing visors as they rarely have the center seam which can reak havoc on many designs. Of course it's true that given the unique size of YOUR visor, you might have to alter your design if 2 inches is too tall. This will vary with each model of visor. I think visors look best with simple, little designs and lettering. That's just my opinion. Oh, and just in case I didn't say it before,... Get that sucker tight under that strap. Tight enough that you break a sweat but not so tight that you break the cap frame! Good luck. Ed Orantes =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================