This message was posted by Wayne on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1206.html#000012 When I do visors I hoop a pc. of FIRM backing under the visor (backing is not an embroidery sold backing) and then I tape the top part of the visor to the hooped backing. This helps hold the visor in place. Remove and trim backing and you are goos to go. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================