[amayausers] Re: OT: Spam emails from a supplier

  • From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:26:44 -0600

Steve,

 I have addresses that the only mail sent through them is information from 
forms, and it is only 1 direction or admin accounts with admin information 
from Hosting services, again only 1 way mail as I have never used them to 
send on or otherwise, and they get spam, not all get the same spam, or even 
in the same day.

 It is does not have to be the Broder hosting server that got hacked or 
harvested either, it could one of the servers used in the relay the email 
takes in its routing from Broder to you. Mail of the type this list sends 
and legit Spam mail like what you receive from Broder is all sent as bulk 
mail. Bulk mail on all servers including relays gets the lowest priority, 
lowest security etc.

 Of course, Broder could have done something stupid like hire a third party 
in India or somewhere to send its mail out to their clients. I can't believe 
a spammer would go after Broder as the harvest yield would be low, and I 
can't believe Broder is selling addresses to Spam lists of the type you are 
receiving. Selling to email address lists targeting specific markets like 
apparel would make them money, not the type you state you are receiving. Not 
enough money in it for them. Spammers sending mail of the type you are 
receiving don't buy email addresses, they steal and harvest them. It is too 
easy. So, something unintentional is most likely, or it was collected off a 
public server somewhere.

 I help with a couple of Email lists, including one from Freelists just like 
this one. I am constantly getting bounced messages and messages that the 
servers send to admin accounts that are emails sent by spammers that are not 
spam, but queries to the server that test it to see if addresses will go 
through. I get anywhere from 1 to hundreds a day. The spammers use programs 
that methodically test a servers resources for holes and accounts and do it 
automatically.

 One way to find out, eliminate the Broder address and register a new unused 
one with them. :)

  Jeff Banks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Cohen" <steve208321@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: OT: Spam emails from a supplier


>I don't think that is the case Jeff. I have spam into this account and the 
>one that is listed as contact on my website. (The one on my website gets 
>spam everyday because it is publicly listed). I have a total of about 20 
>email address and these are the only 2 that got spam. If a spammer did 
>collect every email address on the email server, why wouldn't the other 18 
>email address be getting spam? If I was a spammer, I would send email to 
>every email address I collected from a server, not just a couple of them. I 
>looked at the emails that went to Broder and my general account and none 
>are the same email subject or body (or IP addresses). It just doesn't make 
>sense. I guess I'll see what happens over the weekend to see if spam goes 
>to the other accounts.
>


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