This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1224.html#000001 I broke down and got the old style hat hoops. What a joy. Of course, they are not 180 deg frames, but I really don't have many of them. How tall are your designs? 2 1/2" max!!! If a customer wants taller than that I tell them to find someone else. Melco really needs to get make another style hat hoop. There is just too much trouble with the current one. Do you live clpse enough to anyone to get together for a little mutual learning? =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================