I personally think this is a very enlightening discussion. PDA's and pocket PC's are technology some or most of us use. I totally disagree with you. Scott and all please keep this thread on list as it is benefiting some of us. I delete threads that don't interest me. I wish we could catalog this information for a tutorial on purchasing PDA's and the like. Thanks Rob! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" <mladek1@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker Hello Scott, Frank and Sue, I hope that you all take this request without getting upset but may I ask that you all continue this chat off list or do an instant message chat for this is becoming a bit much and my, as well as all, inboxes are being over-loaded with this and again, please take this off-list to save us such downloading of such quantities of messages... Thanks for your understanding, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > It's all very accessible and doesn't require special software. Pocket > PC's are some of the most accessible hardware available. A blind user can > access every basic feature including flashing and editing internal radio > settings. > > Very cool stuff! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:22 AM > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > > Thanks Scott, sounds reasonable. Is there any accessible software that > can reflash a phone from a PC? > Frank Ventura, MCP > > -----Original Message----- > From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:09 PM > To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > It might be correct but they will never know. Just flash back on the > carrier rom if you ever need to return the phone. > > I'd suggest > > http://www.xda-developers.com if you want to know more. > > Take care. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:47 AM > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > > Scott, I know that from a technical standpoint you can reflash a ROM. > However a lawyer friend of mine once told me that if you buy a branded > phone from a cell provider at their subsidized prices you contractually > agree to use their software. Is that correct? This caveat is one reason > I have always bought phones from sources other than the cell providers. > Frank Ventura, MCP > > -----Original Message----- > From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:29 AM > To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > Frank, with all windows devices it's trivial to remove the providers ROM > and > add your own. I never run the provider code. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:25 AM > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > > I would never consider buying anything but an unbranded phone. Buying a > phone from a cell provider not greatly limits your choice of phones but > gives the cell provider the opportunity of selling the phone with their > version of the OS which quite often cripples some features. > Frank Ventura, MCP > > -----Original Message----- > From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claude Everett > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:09 AM > To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > Unless you are already a subscriber to a service and can't get out of > the > contract. > Then you need to look at the phones that are available or work with > that > service provider you may have to get an unlocked or unbranded compatible > phone to meet your needs. > > Regards, > Claude Everett > American by chance, Californian by choice. > Everyone has a disability, some are more aware of it than others. > "If we have learned one thing from the civil rights movement in the > united > states, it is that when you let others speak for you, you lose." > Ed Roberts > > -----Original Message----- > From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:42 AM > To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > Sue, any of the celluar carriers can provide you with the service you > need. > However pricing and plans may vary. Also keep in mind that some cell > providers will use CDMA and others will use GSM. That will limit your > phone > choices since the phone you purchase must be compatible with with your > carrier's network. For instance I am using a GSM phone on TMobile. If I > were > to switch to Sprint or Verizon I would have to switch to a CDMA phone or > a > dual mode phone. From a blindness perspective I think it is better to > pick > out a phone that will work for you then find the carrier that supports > it, > rather then the other way around. > Frank Ventura, MCP > > -----Original Message----- > From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Buckley > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:38 AM > To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Need recommendations for a new notetaker > > Hey Scott and others > > When going into the cell phone stores what questions should one ask > about > the speed of the PDA or Smart phone? I am currently on Verizon but > thinking > it may not work for me with the phone upgrade I am looking into. Please > help. > > Sue > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: > 1/9/2009 8:38 AM > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: > 1/9/2009 8:38 AM > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: > 1/9/2009 8:38 AM > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: > 1/9/2009 8:38 AM > >