Hi Alison,
no need to justify, you are trying to convince the convinced - I love
Braille and have been a braille user since the age of 5, I was being
purely nasty and sarcastic!
I think Braille is a godsend and I would never ever want to use
digital only solutions. I am, despite all the techy staff I am forced
to use in order to operate efficiently in life, an extremely analogue
person and would prefer to use Braille only, all the time! As someone
who speaks five languages, I cannot imagine learning only by using
speech, I have tried that once with French and have changed my mind as
soon as I received my first negative grade at school.
I believe in the UK a pupil would get lower standards and a bunch of
reasonable adjustments, support workers etc, but my country was
merciless and I am so grateful for that as I would never be able to
develop into a person I am if my life was easier.
I also notice that in third world countries a lot of my colleagues
have bizarre spelling mistakes, purely because they rely on speech too
much; sometimes they don't even know how to spell properly and they
openly say they don't mind as it sounds the same anyway. In English,
that might be somewhat passable, however in other languages, they end
up looking stupid and uneducated, which is actually quite sad and
would be easily sorted.
That's me done for today.
Take care, Aleksandra
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Alison
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Hi Alison,
In both bad cases you mention, this is poor quality control by the producer
and box manufacturer.
With regard to the labels which, if produced in the UK, the same applies,
but resolving the issue should be much quicker since the majority use
equipment and software supplied from within the U.K..
Such issues should ideally be taken up with the MHRA – Medicines and
Healthcare products Regulatory Authority.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/medicines-and-healthcare-products-regulatory-agency
George
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braille embossed on the box, and is quite proud. However, the box containing
a tube of antihystermine is very faint and another box of tablets has a
braille label and is virtually impossible to read. So it does seem to vary.
None of these are foil labels, which to my mind are the most robust.
Alison
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Are you referring to braille on the actual box itself, or labels applied on
to the box?
Be assured that if we were to do as I suggested, we would certainly test
them here before we sold them.
George
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They are George, but sometimes the braille is quite faint and not
particularly easy to read.
Alison
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Again, I should add that brailleable paper labels are also used in the
pharmaceutical industry where the ink-print first and emboss afterwards.
The labels are naturally of a thicker grade of paper.
George
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Paper labels are useless for any long term labelling though, aren’t they,
Anna?
When I was working, all my files were labelled and I also kept a card index
system with basic contact information which I used the foil CD labels for –
they were just the right size. And, because they were foil, if I had to
contact someone months or even years after the card was created, the braille
was still nice and sharp to read. A paper label would have been much less
likely to survive.
Alison
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The only solution I can find is buying paper labels from a stationers, they
don’t last like the plastic ones did then. Annabel
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I use the labels for all sorts of things, and can’t believe that this is the
only option left. I’ll see what they look like when they come but if it
means I have to cut down a Perkins-sized sheet to size every time I want a
label, it will be a real faff and very wasteful too.
Alison
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I stopped selling them awhile ago Alison, I was very disgusted about it
also as are used to so many things. Annabel.
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On 20 Nov 2018, at 16:20, CJ&AA MAY <chrisalismay@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:chrisalismay@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I’m flabberghasted!
I rang RNIB this afternoon to order cd-sized self-adhesive labels, as I have
run out.
Not only don’t they sell these anymore, but they also don’t sell virtually
any others either. for example the long strips or the sheet of 4 or 6
labels. The only self-adhesive labels they now sell are a Perkins-sized
sheet.
I label my CDs, my herbs and a myriad of other things. Am I really going to
have to cut bits off Perkins-sized sheets in future?
Alison
