Hi Steve, I have to agree with you about the battery. From what I've heard, it dos seem a little on the quick drain side. As fo the rest, I can't speak to, although perhaps things will change as time goes on. Also, we have a friend who uses navigon on the IPhone and he really likes it. I don't know if the voice prompts have been put back in. Take it easy TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny On 7 Mar 2010, at 08:59, Steve Nutt wrote: > Hi James, > > In my experience, more applications for Symbian work out of the box than do > with the iPhone or Touch. As a simple example, Navigon used to work well > for GPS, until they took voice prompts out of pedestrian mode, so they have > gone backwards. > > Wayfinder continues to work for Symbian, and Ovi Maps works to a degree, but > not perfectly. > > Also as far as connectivity is concerned, I can connect my Braille display > via Bluetooth with Symbian, which I can't do with an iPhone. > > Also, OCR is a no-no with iPhone, since the camera is so primitive. > > Finally, battery life is so poor as to make it not worth it, and the battery > is not even user replacable, so you can't just go out and buy a spare. > > Don't get caught up in the hype is all I am saying, the iPhone is nice to > feel, but that's all I can say good about it. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > James & Nash > Sent: Saturday 6 March 2010 14:21 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The > dawning of a brave new world ... > > Hi Steve, > > I don't know if this is just me, but I have always had terrible trouble with > Talks and my Nokia cell phones. > > I have spent some time with the IPhone, and I think I like it. I think I > would be much slower texting than I am with my current Nokia phone, but if I > did decide to use an IPhone, I would be using mainstream software which i > could use out of the box. > > Also Steve, do you have any evidence to support your statement that you have > better access to applications using Talks than would using Voice Over on the > IPhone? > > TC > James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny > On 6 Mar 2010, at 10:46, Steve Nutt wrote: > >> Hi Gordon, >> >> Trouble is, it is so expensive. You can buy an E71 for 200 quid, then >> transfer the Talks for 50, and you have paid half the price for an iPhone, >> and have better access to applications, and better connectivity. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of >> Gordon Keen >> Sent: Friday 5 March 2010 15:18 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The >> dawning of a brave new world ... >> >> I for one agree with him, technology should be designed and manufactured >> with access for all and we should not, definitely not have to buy add on >> equipment or software to make it so. >> Apple are getting there slowly but they are getting there. >> >> Regards >> >> G >> >> From glorious Devon, England. >> On 5 Mar 2010, at 12:23, Damon Rose wrote: >> >>> The reason I decided to go for the iPhone in the end is this rather >>> political blog entry from Mike Calvo. He's saying we're on the brink of >>> universal aaccessibility and should turn our backs on the status quo of >>> assistive technology. Well, he kind of says this but also kind of >>> suggests that assistive tech people should use mainstream platforms and >>> devices, not ghetto gizmos: >>> >>> http://www.accessibilitynewsinternational.com/?p=1294&utm_source=twitter >>> feed&utm_medium=twitter >>> >>> I'm not 100% behind his words but I felt moved to try the iPhone as a >>> result. Not sure that's what he expected people to do. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of Lyn & Twinny >>> Sent: 05 March 2010 10:30 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... >>> >>> I would really be interested to read people's experiences with the >>> I-phone. I use a mac at home but have never tried the Iphone. I am very >>> happy with my Nokia N96. However, I would like, , to know for example >>> how easy/hard it is to type a text message, to navigate the different >>> menus and so on. So please, share your experience with me if you wish >>> and feel free to do this off list if you do not wish to clutter the list >>> with a lot of message that may not be of any interest to the people on >>> this list. I hope to hear from some of you at some point about I-phone >>> experience. >>> >>> Take care all and thanks for your time in sharing this with me. >>> >>> Lyn & Twinny >>> >>> On 3/5/10, Mike Moore <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Damon, >>>> >>>> You sure know how to live dangerously! 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