Hi Sunil, Just to add to this excellent explanation, I couldn't have done it myself, you can get the manuals at http://www.apple.com/accessibility, and there is a lot there on VoiceOver. That is one area where Apple have done an excellent job, documentation. And voiceover is great too. It is only tech specs of the phone I have a problem with. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sunil Peck Sent: Monday 8 March 2010 10:17 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... When you're in contacts, or the list of artists in the ipod, put one finger on the extreme right of the screen just over half way up. Voiceover will say 'table index adjustable swipe up to increase swipe down to decrease. Double tap but on the second part of the tap leave your finger on the screen. Then when you move your finger up or down you should hear the contacts or artists beginning with whatever letter youre on. When your on the one you want, remove your finger then touch the screen anywhere to the left of the extreme right. Then you can flick through the contacts or artists beginning with that letter. If you touch too far down, where the button at the bottom of the screen is, youll be zipped right back to the letter a. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Rose Sent: 08 March 2010 10:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... Hi Sunil. Can you tell us a little bit more about the table index function or point us at a web page? I've done a quick google and got nothing particularly obvious. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sunil Peck Sent: 08 March 2010 09:31 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... Well said. I've been using an iPhone since November and although it took a couple of weeks to master, so did my Nokia and Talks when I started out with that. The battery life is fine, I can use the table index function to pinpoint contacts quickly and I've bought far more applications for it than I ever used on my Nokia. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Houghton Sent: 06 March 2010 09:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... Hello Damon and everyone I went over to the I phone at the end of last year because my old nokia n95 was falling apart and my contract was up for renewal. I would have probably gone for the N 97 had it been fully supported by talks, but now I have the I phone I haven't looked back since. It works straight out of the box and a simple link up to iTunes and going into the settings menu and finding accessibility will activate the voice over immediately. Yes, there is a learning curve, but once you have played around with it for a while you do become more comfortable with it and that is when you start to wonder how on earth you ever got on without it. Also, you also learn more ways of doing various things through various gestures as well. All the best Martin -------------------------------------------------- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:23 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] War on assistive technology (was: RE: Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... > The reason I decided to go for the iPhone in the end is this rather > political blog entry from Mike Calvo. He's saying we're on the brink > of universal aaccessibility and should turn our backs on the status > quo of assistive technology. Well, he kind of says this but also kind > of suggests that assistive tech people should use mainstream platforms > and devices, not ghetto gizmos: > > http://www.accessibilitynewsinternational.com/?p=1294&utm_source=twitt > er > feed&utm_medium=twitter > > I'm not 100% behind his words but I felt moved to try the iPhone as a > result. Not sure that's what he expected people to do. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Lyn & Twinny > Sent: 05 March 2010 10:30 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The dawning of a brave new world ... > > I would really be interested to read people's experiences with the > I-phone. I use a mac at home but have never tried the Iphone. I am > very happy with my Nokia N96. However, I would like, , to know for > example how easy/hard it is to type a text message, to navigate the > different menus and so on. So please, share your experience with me > if you wish and feel free to do this off list if you do not wish to > clutter the list with a lot of message that may not be of any interest > to the people on this list. 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